Re: [Pana] RE: Proposed changes for algorithm negotiation
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Re: [Pana] RE: Proposed changes for algorithm negotiation



This would also work for me.

Jari

Alper Yegin kirjoitti:
> That makes sense to me.
>
> Alper 
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba at tari.toshiba.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:21 PM
>> To: Alper Yegin
>> Cc: 'Yoshihiro Ohba'; 'Mark Townsley'; 'Jari Arkko'; 'Sam Hartman';
>> pana at ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Pana] RE: Proposed changes for algorithm negotiation
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 02:47:38AM +0300, Alper Yegin wrote:
>>     
>>> Yoshi,
>>>
>>>       
>>>> 5.4.  Message Authentication
>>>>
>>>>    A PANA message can contain an AUTH AVP for cryptographically
>>>>    protecting the message.
>>>>
>>>>    When an AUTH AVP is included in the last PANA-Auth-Request and
>>>>    PANA-Auth-Answer messages with 'C' (Complete) bit set in the
>>>>    authentication and authorization phase, the value field of
>>>>    the AUTH AVP is calculated by using the PANA_AUTH_KEY in the
>>>>    following way:
>>>>
>>>>       AUTH AVP value = PANA_AUTH_HASH(PANA_AUTH_KEY, PANA_PDU,
>>>>                                       I_PAR, I_PAN)
>>>>
>>>>    When an AUTH AVP is included in any other PANA message, the value
>>>>    field of the AUTH AVP is calculated in the following way:
>>>>
>>>>       AUTH AVP value = PANA_AUTH_HASH(PANA_AUTH_KEY, PANA_PDU)
>>>>         
>>> Not sure which one is better: Having single formula in the spec (good
>>>       
>> for a
>>     
>>> simpler spec), or not having to repeat the same AVPs at a later message
>>> (good for reducing payload). I'm slightly leaning towards the
>>>       
>> former.....
>>
>> If that is the case, how about having I_PAR/I_PAN in the PANA_AUTH_KEY
>> derivation algorithm, and keeping the currently defined AUTH AVP
>> calculation algorithm in pana-pana-17 as it is?  I mean:
>>
>> PANA_AUTH_KEY = prf+(MSK, I_PAR|I_PAN|PaC_nonce|PAA_nonce|Key_ID)
>>
>> (SessionID is included in I_PAR and I_PAN.)
>>
>> Yoshihiro Ohba
>>
>>     
>>>       
>>>>    In the above AUTH AVP calculation algorithms, PANA_PDU represents
>>>>    the PANA message including the PANA header, with the AUTH AVP value
>>>>    field first initialized to 0.  I_PAR is the initial
>>>>    PANA-Auth-Request message with 'S' (Start) bit set.  I_PAN is the
>>>>    initial PANA-Auth-Answer message with 'S' (Start) bit set.
>>>>         
>>> So that people don't mistakenly take the whole IP packet as the PANA
>>> message, let's say "I_PAR is the initial PANA-Auth-Request message (the
>>>       
>> PANA
>>     
>>> header and the following PANA AVPs) with 'S' (Start) bit set."
>>>
>>> Alper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>>    PANA_AUTH_HASH represents the integrity algorithm negotiated during
>>>>    the initial PANA-Auth-Request and PANA-Auth-Answer message
>>>>    exchange.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> [8] Change PAR format in Section 7.2 as follows:
>>>>
>>>>    PANA-Auth-Request ::= < PANA-Header: 2, REQ[,STA][,COM] >
>>>>                        [ EAP-Payload ]
>>>>                        [ Nonce ]
>>>>                     *  [ PRF-Algorithm ]
>>>>                     *  [ Integrity-Algorithm ]
>>>>                        [ Result-Code ]
>>>>                        [ Session-Lifetime ]
>>>>                        [ Key-Id ]
>>>>                     *  [ AVP ]
>>>>                    0*1 < AUTH >
>>>>
>>>> [9] Change PAR format in Section 7.3 as follows:
>>>>
>>>>    PANA-Auth-Answer ::= < PANA-Header: 2 [,STA][,COM] >
>>>>                        [ Nonce ]
>>>>                        [ EAP-Payload ]
>>>>                        [ PRF-Algorithm ]
>>>>                        [ Integrity-Algorithm ]
>>>>                        [ Key-Id ]
>>>>                     *  [ AVP ]
>>>>                    0*1 < AUTH >
>>>>
>>>> [10] Change AVP occurrence table as follows:
>>>>
>>>>    The table uses the following symbols:
>>>>
>>>>    0     The AVP MUST NOT be present in the message.
>>>>
>>>>    0-1   Zero or one instance of the AVP MAY be present in the
>>>>         
>> message.
>>     
>>>>          It is considered an error if there are more than one instance
>>>>          of the AVP.
>>>>
>>>>    1     One instance of the AVP MUST be present in the message.
>>>>
>>>>    0+    Zero or more instance of the AVP MAY be present in the
>>>>         
>> message.
>>     
>>>>
>>>>                          +---------------------------+
>>>>                          |        Message Type       |
>>>>                          +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>    Attribute Name        |PCI|PAR|PAN|PTR|PTA|PNR|PNA|
>>>>    ----------------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>    PRF-Algorithm         | 0 |0+ |0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    Integrity-Algorithm   | 0 |0+ |0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    AUTH                  | 0 |0-1|0-1|0-1|0-1|0-1|0-1|
>>>>    EAP-Payload           | 0 |0-1|0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    Key-Id                | 0 |0-1|0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    Nonce                 | 0 |0-1|0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    Result-Code           | 0 |0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    Session-Lifetime      | 0 |0-1| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    Termination-Cause     | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
>>>>    ----------------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>
>>>>                       Figure 4: AVP Occurrence Table
>>>>
>>>> [11] Remove Section 8.1 (Algorithm AVP) and add the following sections
>>>> instead:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> 8.X.  Integrity-Algorithm AVP
>>>>
>>>>    The PRF-Algorithm AVP (AVP Code X) is used for conveying the the
>>>>    integrity algorithm to compute an AUTH AVP.  The AVP data is of
>>>>    type Unsigned32.
>>>>
>>>>    The AVP data contains an IKEv2 Transform ID of Transform Type 3
>>>>    [RFC4306] for the integrity algorithm.
>>>>
>>>>    All PANA implementations MUST support AUTH_HMAC_SHA1_160 (7)
>>>>    [RFC4595].
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> 8.Y.  PRF-Algorithm AVP
>>>>
>>>>    The PRF-Algorithm AVP (AVP Code Y) is used for conveying the
>>>>    pseudo-random function to derive PANA_AUTH_KEY.  The AVP data is of
>>>>    type Unsigned32.
>>>>
>>>>    The AVP data contains an IKEv2 Transform ID of Transform Type 2
>>>>    [RFC4306].
>>>>
>>>>    All PANA implementations MUST support PRF_HMAC_SHA1 (2) [RFC2104].
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> (Note: Unsigned32 is used here instead of Unsigned16 because RFC3588
>>>> does not define Unsigned16 datatype.)
>>>>
>>>> [12] Change Section 8.2:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> 8.2.  AUTH AVP
>>>>
>>>>    The AUTH AVP (AVP Code 2) is used to integrity protect PANA
>>>>         
>> messages.
>>     
>>>>    The AVP data payload contains the Message Authentication Code
>>>>         
>> encoded
>>     
>>>>    in network byte order.  The AVP length varies depending on the
>>>>    integrity algorithm specified in an Algorithm AVP.  The AVP data is
>>>>    of type OctetString.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> to:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> 8.2.  AUTH AVP
>>>>
>>>>    The AUTH AVP (AVP Code 2) is used to integrity protect PANA
>>>>    messages.  The AVP data payload contains the Message Authentication
>>>>    Code encoded in network byte order.  The AVP length varies
>>>>    depending on the integrity algorithm negotiated in the initial
>>>>    PANA-Auth-Request and PANA-Auth-Answer exchange with 'S' bit set
>>>>    using Integrity-Algorithm AVP.  The AVP data is of type
>>>>    OctetString.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> [13] Change the following paragraph of Section 10.3.1:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>    AVP Code 0 is not used.  This document defines the AVP Codes 1-8.
>>>>    See Section 8.1 through Section 8.8 for the assignment of the
>>>>    namespace in this specification.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> to:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>    AVP Code 0 is not used.  This document defines the AVP Codes 1-9.
>>>>    See Section 8.1 through Section 8.9 for the assignment of the
>>>>    namespace in this specification.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> [14] Remove the following paragraph from Section 11.2:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>    In networks where lower-layers are not secured prior to running
>>>>         
>> PANA,
>>     
>>>>    the capability discovery enabled through inclusion of an Algorithm
>>>>    AVP in the initial PANA-Auth-Request message is susceptible to
>>>>    spoofing leading to DoS attacks.  Therefore, usage of this AVP
>>>>         
>> during
>>     
>>>>    the initial message exchange in such insecure networks is NOT
>>>>    RECOMMENDED.  The same AVP is delivered with integrity protection
>>>>         
>> via
>>     
>>>>    the last PANA-Auth-Request message upon successful authentication.
>>>> "
>>>>         
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