Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec

["Alper Yegin" <alper.yegin at yegin.org>]

Jari,

PaC-EP-Master-Key used to be defined in PANA base specification.
Sam Hartman had asked it be split into a separate document, so we did.

PaC-EP-Master-Key is the glue between PANA and the PaC-EP secure association
protocols.
PaC-EP-Master-Key definition is agnostic to the PaC-EP secure association
protocol, therefore I don't think it makes sense to embed that into
individual protocol document(s).

Alper







> -----Original Message-----
> From: pana-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:pana-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Jari Arkko
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:22 AM
> To: Basavaraj.Patil at nokia.com
> Cc: yohba at tari.toshiba.com; pana at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec
> 
> Can we technically specify the IPsec parts without PEMK? If yes, we
> should do it. If not, we have an issue.
> 
> Quickly scanning through the documents, PaC-EP-Master-Key does not seem
> to be defined in RFC 5191 but it is used by draft-ietf-pana-ipsec. At
> the very least we need a definition of Pac-EP-Master-Key in
> draft-ietf-pana-ipsec, not sure if a separate document is needed.
> 
> Jari
> 
> Basavaraj.Patil at nokia.com wrote:
> > Hi Yoshi,
> >
> > Current intent is to complete the WG I-Ds. Given that the PEMK I-D is
> not a WG document at this time, I would be reluctant to consider any
> further action from the PANA WG perspective.
> >
> > -Raj
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pana-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:pana-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of ext Yoshihiro Ohba
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:50 PM
> > To: Jari Arkko
> > Cc: pana at ietf.org; Patil Basavaraj (Nokia-D/Dallas)
> > Subject: Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec
> >
> > There is a related document (i.e., draft-ohba-pana-pemk-02) that
> defines PaC-EP Master Key (PEMK).  PEMK is derived to be
> cryptographically independent across multiple different types of lower
> layers including IPsec.  What should we do with pana-pemk draft?
> >
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:12:10PM +0300, Jari Arkko wrote:
> >
> >> My primary issue with this document was the lack of cycles, if there
> >> had been no one interested in taking it to completion we should have
> >> dropped it. Since you two are volunteering, can you work with the
> >> chairs to take over the work, and do whatever is needed to bring the
> >> document to a reasonable state?
> >>
> >> Jari
> >>
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