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RE: [PWE3] PWE3 new WG items? PW QoS
- To: "Shah, Himanshu" <hshah at ciena.com>, "'Luca Martini'" <lmartini at cisco.com>, "Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)" <busschbach at lucent.com>
- Subject: RE: [PWE3] PWE3 new WG items? PW QoS
- From: "Shah, Himanshu" <hshah at ciena.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:27:37 -0500
- Cc: "'Proch, Daniel'" <Daniel.Proch at marconi.com>, "'Rahul Aggarwal'" <rahul at juniper.net>, benjamin.niven-jenkins at bt.com, pwe3 at ietf.org
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Also note that QOS information exchange
is not necessarily restricted to TE-LSP
(Eric made that point while back)
The Receiving PE may use this info only
to select the right Policer for local AC.
/himanshu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shah, Himanshu
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:53 AM
> To: 'Luca Martini'; Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
> Cc: 'Proch, Daniel'; 'Rahul Aggarwal'; benjamin.niven-jenkins@bt.com;
> pwe3@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [PWE3] PWE3 new WG items? PW QoS
>
>
> If one was to map one PW per transport LSP,
> one does not need RSVP signaling for PW QOS....:-)
>
> I remember a debate at IETF where a group of people
> were concerned about scaling of RSVP's use
> for LSP signaling. Well, PWs are multi magnitude
> higher order than transport LSPs.
>
> Also, isn't direction an issue?
> Target PE (tail end) tells the source PE (head end)
> about his local AC's QOS requirements. Source PE (head-end)
> then selects an appropriate transport tunnel to target PE (tail-end).
> If I remember correctly, in RSVP-TE the head-end specifies
> the QOS requirement (which tail-end can adjust in RESV).
>
> /himanshu
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Luca Martini [mailto:lmartini@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:51 AM
> > To: Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
> > Cc: 'Proch, Daniel'; 'Rahul Aggarwal';
> benjamin.niven-jenkins@bt.com;
> > Shah, Himanshu; pwe3@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [PWE3] PWE3 new WG items? PW QoS
> >
> >
> > Busschbach, Peter B (Peter) wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >I would agree that if QoS were the only problem that needs
> > to be solved it could be acceptable to carry QoS information
> > in the LDP messages that are used for PW setup (albeit that
> > it is somewhat ugly since it makes LDP look like CR-LDP which
> > has been depreciated).
> > >
> > >However, there are other issues that need to be solved.
> > Several people on this mailing list suggested that we need to
> > address PW stitching. It seems to me that stitching of PWs
> > requires a signaling protocol that establishes a multi-hop PW
> > through switches that switch based on the PW label. RSVP is
> > in my view the only reasonable solution.
> > >
> > >Hence, if we don't look at one problem at a time, but at the
> > entire problem space, I think we need to adopt RSVP as a way
> > to establish PWs. It would solve the problems of both QoS and
> > stitching.
> > >
> > >Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Peter,
> > It is possible ( I already know of one implementation ) to
> select an
> > RSVP LSP to transport a single PW.
> > That does not change the protocol , and does carry QoS information
> > needed by the PSN. It also achieves another property that
> as it turns
> > out is quite useful in practice: explicit routing of the PW
> > across the
> > PSN. ( this is for TE , but also other reasons like avoiding
> > shared PSN
> > failure modes )
> >
> > Luca
> >
> > >
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