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I don't know what modes Engage and Ericsson support,
but it would be interesting to hear. I am guessing that
the Engage implementation (being software on a small
processor) is also unstructured,
but perhaps Sasha could enlighten us.

Incidentally, draft-anavi presently has several interoperable
implementations that support unstructured and structured  modes,
and at least two commercial chip-sets are coming out in the near future. 

Perhaps Dan is refering to verbal support,
rather than actual implementations.
So far I see 6:5 in favor of CESoPSN:

FOR CESoPSN:
    1. Sasha - Axerra
    2. Ron Cohen - Lycium
    3. Michel Khouderchah - Cisco
    4. Uri Rotshtein - Redux
    5. Max Riegel - Siemens
    6. Dan Romascanu - Avaya

AGAINST (i.e. for TDMoIP)
    1. Yaakov - RAD
    2. Shahram - PMC
    3. Alex Conta - TranSwitch
    4. Amnon Ilan - Nbase
    5. Neil Harrison - BT

which is pretty close to 50-50.
Since I am going to be issuing an update
of draft-anavi, we can go through this
again and see what support draft-anavi has - 
the answer will probably be about the same.

Finally, perhaps Dan is refering to deployments.
draft-anavi has well over 10,000 deployed ports,
many of which have been functioning for several
years already.  Can we get some figures on
active deployments (not betas) from the CESoPSN
implementations ?  
I know that this sounds terribly crass, 
but don't we deserve to hear if this stuff 
has really been tested in the field? 

Y(J)S


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