Re: [Raven] [FYI] NL: Intelligence agency authorized to scan satellite communications

["chefren" <chefren@pi.net>]

On 12 Apr 00, at 17:18, Ed Stone wrote:

> >All far too difficult and tricky. If encryption is
> >regulated for end-users and provided by communication
> >providers because law demands it, law enforcement can ask
> >communication providers to decode messages and there are no
> >further problems. Unless an end user do uses encryption, in
> >that case law enforcement should be able to place bugs in
> >homes.
> 
> Why not require bugs to be attached to the person? Crime could hide in 
> places other than the home if only homes are bugged?  ;-)
> 
> What if you *might* be using encryption, but steganography might hide that 
> fact. Couldn't crime hide there?  ;-)
> 
> Oh, for a world where more power to governments to intrude meant less 
> crime, instead of more crime. "Chefren's world..."
> 
> The Chefren model is bankrupt.



I, being chefren, have no problem to state that you don't 
understand the basic theories behind "The Chefren model".


What's bankrupt is the free-encryption = more-privacy 
fallacy as preached by the American-NRA-macho church where 
you seem to belong to.

Free use of encryption inevitably will lead to democracies 
that free the way for law-enforcement to everybodies 
desktops and private lives, a place were law enforcement 
shouldn't be if not very very necessary.


> Only pretense is left, and the plug is being 
> pulled on this list, problem solved, philosophy stated.


After Raven the world stays as privitive as it was before, 
nothing better only thicker layers of mud and ignorance.


Serious problems should be adressed with creativity not mud 
and certainly not with red tape versions of RFC's.

+++chefren

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