Re: [Raven] And it ought to be remembered that there is...

["chefren" <chefren@pi.net>]

On 14 Apr 00, at 11:36, Ge' Weijers wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:03:00PM +0200, chefren wrote:
> > And who is going to pay for that "as expensive and 
> > difficult as possible"???
> > 
> > You and me!
> 
> Electronic surveying of communications lines scales reasonably well
> (proof: Echelon).

Proof not accepted, as explained long time ago, the scaling 
belongs to urban legends, please read WSJ(?)/WSJE interview 
of NSA chief today.

> Black bag jobs do not scale well, and there's always
> the risk of detection and harm to the person planting the bug. 

Yep, planting the bugs is both VERY expensive and risky 
(and intrusive...).

It's so risky that I estimate that in big multi million or 
even billion Dollar cases not the crooks will be bugged but 
also, or even earlier, the people they communicate with.

Might well be innocent people like you and me.

Since these guys use encryption, that's why the bugs are 
needed, I think this is unfortunately inevitable.

+++chefren


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