[Raven] Dear Richard,

["chefren" <chefren@pi.net>]

On 14 Apr 00, at 13:00, Richard Payne wrote:

> Confusing needs and wants is supposed to be the prerogative of economists,
> isn't it?
> 
> To say "Law enforcement needs to do X" is, since only individuals have needs
> and wants, shorthand for "Some people in some law enforcement agencies want
> to do X". That they want to do X, perhaps with good intentions, does not
> prove that X is a good thing, that they can constitutionally do X, or that
> threats along the lines of "let me do X or I'll do something even worse" are
> justified.



Dear Richard,

As someone else noticed we are writing quite some time 
here. Not really a year but in Internet time almost some 
years.

Hasn't it come up to you that all your serious, respectable 
and even pretty exact interpolations don't fit to what has 
happened during Raven in the real world?


I think the Wall Street Journal article about the NSA chief 
today clearly pointed at two main misassumptions. Your law-
enforcement/inteligence services do tap and bug American 
citizens and they do it under strict rules and the scale 
isn't frightning at all compared to the attacked problems.


+++chefren


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