[Roll] Unannounced change in draft-ietf-roll-mcast-trickle

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 11 April 2013 12:23 UTC

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Subject: [Roll] Unannounced change in draft-ietf-roll-mcast-trickle
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Hi,

It's been brought to my attention that between -02 and -03 the form of the IPv6
option number was changed. I've had a quick chat with the chairs, and I'm
jumping in because of the implications for IANA (see below).

The act bits remain the same (01) indicating that the IPv6 node MUST discard the
packet if it doesn't recognize the option type.
But the chg bit changed from 0 in -02 to 1 in -01 meaning that transit nodes can
now change the content of the option.

I have no comment on whether this is a good idea (the WG should decide about
that), but I haven't been able to find a discussion of this change on the list.
Perhaps it is buried in a ticket?

The problem caused is that the WG went through the hoop to ask for an early code
point allocation. part of that request is confirming that the content of the
IANA section is stable. The allocation was made against the -02 revision, so now
you have a code point in the registry that you say you do not want to use :-(

Let's sort out first things first. 
- Authors, please explain why the change was made.
- WG, please wait for the authors to explain, and then
  respond with your opinions.
- Chairs, please let me know what the consensus is.

Thanks,
Adrian