Re: [rrg] Scalable Internet

["Joel M. Halpern" <jmh at joelhalpern.com>]

Actually, I do not think that most folks using the terms are using ID 
for "host attachment point."
I believe the primary semantic for ID that most people are using is 
"Identifier for communication point with the property that the 
identifier does not change if the topological placement of the 
communicating entity changes."

There is outstanding discussion as to whether this identifier is, or 
must be, or may be, the network attachment point, the network stack, the 
transport stack, or the application.
I tend to be in the family that wants to name the network/transport 
stack.  I tend to treat the cases whee the network attachment point 
needs to be named (for example, for monitoring purposes) as a special 
case which can be treated as a stack associated with that entity.
But I will readily agree that this is not settled.

Yours,
Joel

Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Dae Young KIM <dykim at cnu.kr> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Lloyd Wood <L.Wood at surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > On 18 Nov 2009, at 17:57, Dae Young KIM wrote:
> > > > Actually, I'm new to this group, so don't have the collected knowledge
> > > > of
> > > > past conversations. My sincere apology.
> > > The mailing list archive's at:
> > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rrg/current/maillist.html
> > > 2008 and before are at:
> > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/rrg/
> > Thank you.
> > > L.
> > >
> > > DTN work: http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/saratoga/
> > >
> > > <http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/><L.Wood at surrey.ac.uk>
> > Yet, I think I can still defend my definition of the term.
>
> but redefining doesn't help the conversation that's been ongoing here
> for .... 3+ yrs.
>
> ID == host attachment point
>
> Locator == network  (or loosely ASN in today's bgp4 routed world)
>
> -chris
>
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > DY
> > http://cnu.kr/~dykim
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