Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review of draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-04

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 21 April 2016 11:38 UTC

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
> Sent: 21 April 2016 12:35
> To: 'Stewart Bryant'; rtg-ads@ietf.org
> Cc: RTG-DIR@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-
> exchange@tools.ietf.org; teas@ietf.org; Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com;
> jon.hudson@gmail.com; zhang.xian@huawei.com; 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'
> Subject: RE: RtgDir review of draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-04
> 
> Stewart,
> 
> Many thanks for your time and kind words.
> 
> Responses in line.
> 
> Deborah, when in the process do you want to see an update?
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
> > Summary:
> > I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be
> resolved
> > before publication.
> >
> > Comments:
> > This is an exceptionally well written document that will serve community well in
> > understanding this problem.
> >
> > The first two minor comments are in many ways optional, but I think addressing
> > them would be appreciated by those new to the subject.
> >
> > Major Issues:
> > No major issues found.
> >
> > Minor Issues:
> >
> > In section 1.1.2 TE Metrics and TE Attributes, there appears to be no definition
> of
> > either term (either by reference of by value). A definition and in particular a
> > distinction would be helpful to the reader less familiar with the subject.
> 
> I think that you're right that some clarity could be added. The general description
> of the combination of the two terms looks fine to me, but by presenting two
> terms we do need to distinguish them and explain. I suspect that some examples
> and a little more description will do the job. Mainly we need to characterise a TE
> metric as a quantifiable value (including measurement) describing some property
> of a link or node that can be used as part of TE routing or planning, while a TE
> attribute is a wider term (i.e. including TE metric) that refers to any property or
> characteristic of a link or node that can be used as part of TE routing or planning.
> 
> > Regarding Section 1.1.8.  Abstract Node or Virtual Node. It is unclear whether
> these
> > are synonyms, or if there is a distinction between them.
> 
> Hmmm. During WG last call we were asked to add 1.1.8 to give a root for use of
> these terms, although I chose to point at 3.5 and 4.2.2.1 for more details. But I
> think I can add a distinction between the very similar terms.
> 
> > Section 5.2
> > The text "(i.e., completely separate instances using different address)" is
> > incomplete. I think that you have omitted the word "spaces".
> 
> Yes. Thanks.
> 
> > Nits:
> > "2.4.  Requesting Connectivity
> >
> > "   This relationship between domains can be entirely under the control"
> >
> > I think that should be "The relationship"
> 
> Ack
> 
> > Section 6 the text "are arranged a set of small domains" I think should be
> > "are arranged as a set of small domains"
> 
> Ack
> 
> > Section 10.1 para 3 duplicate word "the the"
> 
> Ack