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Re: [saag] IPsec configuration via BGP--softwires to support overlay network confidentiality/integrity



>   I question the need for all of these parameters in BGP.

I agree with Michael here.  Similar issues arose with RFC 3723, which 
proposed distributing security policy via iSNS.  At that time it was found 
that only a minimal set of security parameters were required. 

>   The cryptographic algorithms are negotiable in IKE. If we don't have a
> common set, saying so in BGP won't help. 
>   The ID: it's the IP of the end-point.

I think this makes sense, assuming that the endpoints can be assumed 
to be using static addresses.  Also I agree that IKE should be used for 
algorithm negotiation (though use of algorithms such as DES should 
probably be discouraged). 

>   I suspect that we really want to negotiate a transport mode SA for IP
> protocol 4 (or 98 or 94..), not a tunnel mode SA.

Right. 

> We might use MODECFG to assign IP addresses for the virtual interface that
> we are creating. In IKEv2, we can actually do that with the TS negotiation.

If transport mode SAs are being negotiated, this will probably not be 
necessary. 

>     Sam> The work on what to carry in BGP will be accompanied by a profile of
>     Sam> IPsec which requires (probably by reference to the IPsec algorithms
>     Sam> documents) appropriate mandatory algorithms and which specifies how
>     Sam> to configure the SPD for this application.

This was the approach taken in RFC 3723. 

> Of course, the set of algorithms that one requires will change over time,
> so the mandatory set will get stale. Of course, the document will specify at
> least 2 of each algorithm so that implementations will have to test actually
> switching.

Yup.  My suggestion would be to make sure that the two algorithms chosen 
are well supported.  

>   I like it.

I also think it makes sense at a high level.  Of course, the devil is in 
the details. 



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