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Re: [saag] SHA-1 to SHA-n transition

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Tue, 03 March 2009 16:26 UTC

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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:26:47 +1300
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Subject: Re: [saag] SHA-1 to SHA-n transition
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Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com> writes:
>On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:46:42AM +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote:
>> (I don't know the answer either, but admitting you have a problem with your
>> current approach is always the first step to recovery).
>
>How long has the consensus been that web security is broke?  Admitting
>you have a problem is the first step, but it is not sufficient.

By "current approach" I meant PKI as a means of addressing web security
problems.  The response to 20 (or 30, see before) years of PKI failure as
recently as a year ago has been EV certs, i.e. more of what we already know
doesn't work.  It looks like we're nowhere near admitting that we have a
problem yet if the response to the failure of PKI is PKI-me-harder.

Peter.

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