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Re: [saag] A question about AES properties...



Quoting Ken Raeburn <raeburn at MIT.EDU>:

> On Oct 15, 2009, at 15:56, John Border wrote:
> >     I have what I thought was a simple question about the properties  
> > of AES.  But, I have not been able to find an answer.  Possibly that  
> > means the question itself is flawed (but I haven?t been able to  
> > figure that out either)?
> >
> >    With AES, does the order of the functions matter, i.e. does  
> > EK(DK(P)) = DK(EK(P))?
> 

As Ken responded, if the plaintext is a multiple of the block size, because EK
and DK are inverses, the result is the identity function, so the answer to the
above is that the order does not make a difference.

BUT, I expect what you might have been trying to ask is whether EK1(DK2(P)) =
DK2(EK1(P)), i.e. your question above, but using two different keys.  In this
case, the analyses is not as simple, and I would guess that the answer is that
no they are not the same.  But I could be wrong.  You should be able to verify
the "NO" answer with a simple experiment.

Clifford Neuman

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