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- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &quot;'Behcet Sarikaya'&quot; &amp;lt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya%40alcatel.com"><a href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya%40alcatel.com">behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya%40alcatel.com"><a href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya%40alcatel.com">behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt;, Marco Liebsch &amp;lt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:Marco.Liebsch%40ccrle.nec.de"><a href="mailto:Marco.Liebsch%40ccrle.nec.de">Marco.Liebsch@ccrle.nec.de</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:Marco.Liebsch%40ccrle.nec.de"><a href="mailto:Marco.Liebsch%40ccrle.nec.de">Marco.Liebsch@ccrle.nec.de</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/LI&gt;</li></li>
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;I thought that James addressed this issue already. Please point to&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;the statement in the assessment draft that you object to. I believe&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;that James already made it clear that although a single person&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;reviewed both drafts, they were reviewed independently, and both had&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;ties to specific external protocols, which the review committee found&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;innapropriate.&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;So could you please qualify your objection?&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;PatC&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;- -----Original Message-----&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;From: Behcet Sarikaya [&lt;A HREF=&quot;<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com&quot"";>mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com&quot"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com&quot";>mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com&quot</a></a>;&gt;<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com"";>mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com";>mailto:behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;] &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:13 AM&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;To: Marco Liebsch&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Cc: Seamoby&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Subject: Re: [Seamoby] proposal on next steps in paging&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Hi Marco,&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;nbsp; There is a very important issue with the way paging protocol&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;assessment was concluded, i.e. one of the candidate proposals was not&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;eliminated in a way which is not acceptable. As I said in one of my&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;previous emails, the assessment result is moot.&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;nbsp; I do not we can proceed without this issue being resolved&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;satisfactorily.&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;nbsp; Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Marco Liebsch wrote:&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; Dear all,&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; in order to proceed with DMHA protocol specification, I propose the&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; following:&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; Since the current base-line document is maybe a bit overloaded for &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; being the first Seamoby WG draft, I will take out the Mobile IPv6 &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; specific options out of the main part, but keep the generic&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; explicit&amp;nbsp; signaling in the document. Mobile IPv6 specific&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; optimization could be&amp;nbsp; kept in the documents annex or in a separate&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; document (what do you&amp;nbsp; think?). Furthermore, my opinion is that the&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; concept should allow&amp;nbsp; deployment of several paging strategies, as&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; currently described in the&amp;nbsp; draft. But maybe it is reasonable to&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; extract the sections on paging&amp;nbsp; strategies out of the current draft&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; keeping them in a separate &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; document, which could be further evaluated and extended. This would&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp; allow to get a first framework draft, which is clearly arranged&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; and&amp;nbsp; open for further specification of open issues. What about the &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; following: Coming up with a first famework draft end of January, &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; possibly having some further ideas and issues already addressed by &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; then. Then we have about one month in order to prepare a second &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; version ready for submission right in time for IETF#53.&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; First issues to be addressed with respect to the base-line concept &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; should be the issues described in the assessment draft. Maybe this&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; is&amp;nbsp; a good starting point for proceeding. As mentioned in Salt Lake&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; already, all protocol proposals have very good ideas, which should&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; be&amp;nbsp; discussed and considered to be folded into a common WG DMHA&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; protocol&amp;nbsp; draft. Comments are appreciated.&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; I am looking forward to working with you all on bringing the DMHA &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; protocol specification ahead.&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;&amp;gt; Marco&lt;/FONT&gt;
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