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- <li><em><li><em>&lt;address&gt;title</em></em>: &lt;STRONG&gt;RE: Removing CT Requirements&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/ADDRESS&gt;</li></li>
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- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: George Tsirtsis &amp;lt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com"><a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com">G.Tsirtsis@flarion.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com"><a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com">G.Tsirtsis@flarion.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/LI&gt;</li></li>
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- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &quot;'Gary Kenward'&quot; &amp;lt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:gkenward%40nortelnetworks.com"><a href="mailto:gkenward%40nortelnetworks.com">gkenward@nortelnetworks.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:gkenward%40nortelnetworks.com"><a href="mailto:gkenward%40nortelnetworks.com">gkenward@nortelnetworks.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt;, &quot;'James Kempf'&quot; &amp;lt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:kempf%40docomolabs-usa.com"><a href="mailto:kempf%40docomolabs-usa.com">kempf@docomolabs-usa.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:kempf%40docomolabs-usa.com"><a href="mailto:kempf%40docomolabs-usa.com">kempf@docomolabs-usa.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt;, George Tsirtsis &amp;lt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com"><a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com">G.Tsirtsis@flarion.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com"><a href="mailto:G.Tsirtsis%40flarion.com">G.Tsirtsis@flarion.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/LI&gt;</li></li> &lt;DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;-----Original Message-----&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;From:&lt;/B&gt; Gary Kenward [<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:gkenward@nortelnetworks.com"">mailto:gkenward@nortelnetworks.com"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:gkenward@nortelnetworks.com">mailto:gkenward@nortelnetworks.com</a></a>]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Sent:&lt;/B&gt; Friday, January 04, 2002 6:04 PM&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;To:&lt;/B&gt; 'James Kempf'; George Tsirtsis&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Cc:&lt;/B&gt; seamoby@ietf.org&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Subject:&lt;/B&gt; RE: Removing CT Requirements&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;I would like to know from George if he believes&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;5.5.2 is irrelevant, or simply ambiguously worded.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;I believe (and I suspect that George may concur)&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;that error protection for the context is&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;required (consider the possible impact of attempting&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;to install or use erroneous context at an AR), and &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;that it is important to clearly identify that requirement &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;(particularly given that there are no transport &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;requirements in the id).&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;Gary&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; From: James Kempf [&lt;A href=&quot;<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com&quot"">mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com&quot"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com&quot">mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com&quot</a></a>;&gt;<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com"">mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com">mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com</a></a>&lt;/A&gt;]&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: January 4, 2002 12:31&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; To: Kenward, Gary [WDLN2:AN10:EXCH]; George Tsirtsis&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; Cc: seamoby@ietf.org&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Removing CT Requirements&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; It seems to me like George is making a specific request as part of the&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; WG last call that the following&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; requirements be removed from the document:&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; 4.12 The context information to be transferred MUST be &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; available at the&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; AR performing the transfer, prior to the initiation of a &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; given phase of&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; the context transfer.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; 4.13 The context transfer solution WILL NOT verify the context&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; information prior to transfer.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; 4.15 The context transfer solution MAY include methods for &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; interworking&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; with non-IETF mobility solutions.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; 5.5.2 A context update MUST preserve the integrity, and thus the&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; meaning, of the context at each receiving AR.&quot;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; based on their being impossible to interpret meaningfully in an&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; implementation and deployment context or to their being obvious.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; Rather than spend another week exchanging email on this &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; topic, I'd like&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; to ask the WG at this time if there&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; is anyone else who feels that one or several of these requirements&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; should be removed before we send this document to the IESG?&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; jak&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&amp;gt;
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