[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
[no subject]
- <!--x-content-type: text/plain --> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
- <!--x-date: Mon Sep 28 10:54:16 2009 -->
- <!--x-from-r13: Gaxabja -->
- <!--x-message-id: c8ac211bdb7214899f047449c8fa3aee@NO-ID-FOUND.mhonarc.org -->
- <!--x-subject: -->
- <li><em><!--x-content-type</em>: text/plain --> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"></li>
- <li><em><!--x-date</em>: Mon Sep 28 10:48:35 2009 --></li>
- <li><em><!--x-from-r13</em>: Gaxabja --></li>
- <li><em><!--x-message-id</em>: <a href="mailto:d9de99c501ea45772f0ce2409166ffc5%40NO">d9de99c501ea45772f0ce2409166ffc5@NO</a>&#45;ID&#45;FOUND.mhonarc.org --></li>
- <li><em><!--x-subject</em>: --></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;!--x-content-type</em></em>: text/plain --&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;!--x-date</em></em>: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:18:48 &amp;#45;0500 --&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;!--x-from-r13</em></em>: Xhxxn [X [naare &lt;wznaareNpf.Vryfvaxv.TW&gt; --&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;!--x-message-id</em></em>: Pine.LNX.4.44.0304051225280.19312&amp;#45;<a href="mailto:100000%40mannersaari.cs.Helsinki.FI"><a href="mailto:100000%40mannersaari.cs.Helsinki.FI">100000@mannersaari.cs.Helsinki.FI</a></a> --&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;!--x-reference</em></em>: <a href="mailto:001a01c2fb23%24612d96c0%247f1afea9%40oemcomputer"><a href="mailto:001a01c2fb23%24612d96c0%247f1afea9%40oemcomputer">001a01c2fb23$612d96c0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer</a></a> --&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;!--x-subject</em></em>: [Seamoby] Re: I&amp;#45;D ACTION:draft&amp;#45;ietf&amp;#45;seamoby&amp;#45;mobility&amp;#45;terminology&amp;#45;03.txt --&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;cc&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: Markku Kojo &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:kojo%40cs.Helsinki.FI"><a href="mailto:kojo%40cs.Helsinki.FI">kojo@cs.Helsinki.FI</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:kojo%40cs.Helsinki.FI"><a href="mailto:kojo%40cs.Helsinki.FI">kojo@cs.Helsinki.FI</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, Charles Perkins &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:charliep%40iprg.nokia.com"><a href="mailto:charliep%40iprg.nokia.com">charliep@iprg.nokia.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:charliep%40iprg.nokia.com"><a href="mailto:charliep%40iprg.nokia.com">charliep@iprg.nokia.com</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:tapio.suihko%40vtt.fi"><a href="mailto:tapio.suihko%40vtt.fi">tapio.suihko@vtt.fi</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:tapio.suihko%40vtt.fi"><a href="mailto:tapio.suihko%40vtt.fi">tapio.suihko@vtt.fi</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;, Tapio Suihko &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:Ext-Tapio.Suihko%40nokia.com"><a href="mailto:Ext-Tapio.Suihko%40nokia.com">Ext-Tapio.Suihko@nokia.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:Ext-Tapio.Suihko%40nokia.com"><a href="mailto:Ext-Tapio.Suihko%40nokia.com">Ext-Tapio.Suihko@nokia.com</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, Philip Eardley &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:philip.eardley%40bt.com"><a href="mailto:philip.eardley%40bt.com">philip.eardley@bt.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:philip.eardley%40bt.com"><a href="mailto:philip.eardley%40bt.com">philip.eardley@bt.com</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, Dave Wisely &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:dave.wisely%40bt.com"><a href="mailto:dave.wisely%40bt.com">dave.wisely@bt.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:dave.wisely%40bt.com"><a href="mailto:dave.wisely%40bt.com">dave.wisely@bt.com</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, &amp;quot;Hancock, Robert&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.hancock%40roke.co.uk"><a href="mailto:robert.hancock%40roke.co.uk">robert.hancock@roke.co.uk</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:robert.hancock%40roke.co.uk"><a href="mailto:robert.hancock%40roke.co.uk">robert.hancock@roke.co.uk</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, Nikos Georganopoulos &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:nikolaos.georganopoulos%40kcl.ac.uk"><a href="mailto:nikolaos.georganopoulos%40kcl.ac.uk">nikolaos.georganopoulos@kcl.ac.uk</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:nikolaos.georganopoulos%40kcl.ac.uk"><a href="mailto:nikolaos.georganopoulos%40kcl.ac.uk">nikolaos.georganopoulos@kcl.ac.uk</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;date&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 12:50:03 +0300 (EEST)&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: Jukka MJ Manner &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:jmanner%40cs.Helsinki.FI"><a href="mailto:jmanner%40cs.Helsinki.FI">jmanner@cs.Helsinki.FI</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:jmanner%40cs.Helsinki.FI"><a href="mailto:jmanner%40cs.Helsinki.FI">jmanner@cs.Helsinki.FI</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;in-reply-to&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &amp;lt;<a href="mailto:001a01c2fb23%24612d96c0%247f1afea9%40oemcomputer"><a href="mailto:001a01c2fb23%24612d96c0%247f1afea9%40oemcomputer">001a01c2fb23$612d96c0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer</a></a>&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;list-help&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dhelp"><a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dhelp">seamoby-request@ietf.org?subject=help</a></a>&quot;&gt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dhelp"><a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dhelp">seamoby-request@ietf.org?subject=help</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;list-id&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: Context Transfer,Handoff Candidate Discovery,and Dormant Mode Host Alerting &amp;lt;seamoby.ietf.org&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;list-post&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org"><a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org">seamoby@ietf.org</a></a>&quot;&gt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org"><a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org">seamoby@ietf.org</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;list-subscribe&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&quot;&gt;https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dsubscribe"><a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dsubscribe">seamoby-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe</a></a>&quot;&gt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dsubscribe"><a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dsubscribe">seamoby-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;list-unsubscribe&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&quot;&gt;https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dunsubscribe"><a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dunsubscribe">seamoby-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe</a></a>&quot;&gt;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dunsubscribe"><a href="mailto:seamoby-request%40ietf.org%3Fsubject%3Dunsubscribe">seamoby-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;sender&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby-admin%40ietf.org"><a href="mailto:seamoby-admin%40ietf.org">seamoby-admin@ietf.org</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:seamoby-admin%40ietf.org"><a href="mailto:seamoby-admin%40ietf.org">seamoby-admin@ietf.org</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;subject&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: [Seamoby] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-03.txt&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
- <li><em><li><em>&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt;</em></em>: Randy Presuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:randy_presuhn%40mindspring.com"><a href="mailto:randy_presuhn%40mindspring.com">randy_presuhn@mindspring.com</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:randy_presuhn%40mindspring.com"><a href="mailto:randy_presuhn%40mindspring.com">randy_presuhn@mindspring.com</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, Seamoby Working Group &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org"><a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org">seamoby@ietf.org</a></a>&quot;&gt;<a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org"><a href="mailto:seamoby%40ietf.org">seamoby@ietf.org</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;</li></li>
Regards,
Jukka
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Randy Presuhn wrote:
&amp;gt; Hi -
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; A couple of nits jumped out at me from
&amp;gt; draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-03.txt,
&amp;gt; please ignore if you think I'm hallucinating.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 1, first paragraph:
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;could like take&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;could take&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 1, second paragraph:
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;terminology, for&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;terminology. For&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 2, &amp;quot;Bandwidth&amp;quot; should be expressed as information carrying
&amp;gt; capacity PER UNIT TIME. Without the time dimension, it's not
&amp;gt; bandwidth.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 2, &amp;quot;Bandwidth Utilization&amp;quot; neglects link overhead. The current
&amp;gt; definition sounds closer to &amp;quot;goodput&amp;quot;.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 2, &amp;quot;Channel Access Protocol&amp;quot; the second sentence seems to conflict
&amp;gt; with the previous definition. The phrase &amp;quot;uncontested access to the
&amp;gt; medium&amp;quot; doesn't seem to be quite right for FDMA or CDMA, for example.
&amp;gt; Same comment applies to the MAC definition. Perhaps the distinction
&amp;gt; between &amp;quot;channel&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;medium&amp;quot; should be more rigorously observed.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 2, &amp;quot;Fairness&amp;quot; sounds like it means to say something like &amp;quot;fairly
&amp;gt; available&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;fairly equal&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Secton 2, &amp;quot;Mobility Factor&amp;quot;: so the units would be moves per initiation?
&amp;gt; (rather than something like pdu, exchange, or transaction) What does
&amp;gt; this mean for connectionless protocols like SNMP?
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 2, &amp;quot;Neighbor&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;forwarding node&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;forwarding node.&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 2, &amp;quot;Payload&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;Note,&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Note&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 3, first paragraph: &amp;quot;a set of nodes form&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;a set of nodes forms&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 3, first paragraph: &amp;quot;The Figure 1&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Figure 1&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 3, second paragraph: &amp;quot;i.e.&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;e.g.&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 3, second paragraph: &amp;quot;ANR&amp;quot; is introduced without expansion
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.1: the distinction between &amp;quot;horizontal handover&amp;quot; and
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;layer 2 handover&amp;quot; isn't clear. An example illustrating the
&amp;gt; difference might be useful.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.2: The intent here is to characterize all handovers
&amp;gt; in five dimensions (a-e)? The use of &amp;quot;may be&amp;quot; in (c) where
&amp;gt; the others use &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; seems odd.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.2 (c): so &amp;quot;mutual assistance&amp;quot; isn't possible? :-)
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.4, &amp;quot;Goodput&amp;quot;: this is an unusual way of defining it.
&amp;gt; This definition would count bandwidth used by packets dropped
&amp;gt; due to CRC errors as &amp;quot;goodput&amp;quot;. Is that really the intent?
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.5: &amp;quot;UTRAN FDD&amp;quot; used without expansion.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.5: &amp;quot;the splitting&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;The splitting&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.6: (bottom of page 18) Where's the rest of the sentence
&amp;gt; beginning &amp;quot;The term&amp;quot; ? :-)
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.6, &amp;quot;Active State&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;when&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;When&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.6, &amp;quot;Time-slotted Dormant Mode&amp;quot;: is the extra indentation
&amp;gt; deliberate? The following text refers to three states, which would
&amp;gt; suggest that it is, but the layout looks odd nonetheless. I'd suggest
&amp;gt; moving it into the &amp;quot;additional defintions&amp;quot; that immediately follow.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.5, &amp;quot;Paging&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Location updating&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;a procedure&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;A procedure&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.8: &amp;quot;to which MN is currently attached to&amp;quot; -&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;to which MN is currently attached&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.9: &amp;quot;means, the&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;means the&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.9, last paragraph: &amp;quot;LMM messages itself are not&amp;quot; -&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;LMM messages are not&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 4.9, last paragraph: &amp;quot;although,&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;although&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; There's no IPR section... No trademarks, etc. in this area?
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 10: if this is planned for eventual RFC publication,
&amp;gt; this should be split into normative and informative references
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 10: the format for entries should follow that used in
&amp;gt; &amp;lt;draft-rfc-editor-rfc2223bis-04.txt&amp;gt; (Note the order of
&amp;gt; names and initials in lists follows common bibliographic
&amp;gt; practice, strange though it may be.)
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 11: there's a superfluous &amp;quot;)&amp;quot; in one of the email addresses.
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 12.a.1: &amp;quot;GSM&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;EMA&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;WLAN&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;PLMN&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;UMTS&amp;quot; aren't expanded
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 12.a.2: &amp;quot;TDMA&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;W-CDMA&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;CDMA&amp;quot; aren't expanded
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 12.a.3: &amp;quot;RNC&amp;quot; that isn't Republican National Committee, is it?
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 12.a.4: GPRS? GGSN?
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Section 12.a.4: &amp;quot;components (see Figure 1.&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;components. (See Figure 1.)&amp;quot;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt; Randy
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt;
&amp;gt;
_______________________________________________
Seamoby mailing list
Seamoby@ietf.org
&lt;a href=&quot;<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&quot"">https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&quot"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&quot">https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby&quot</a></a>;&gt;<a rel="nofollow" href="<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby"">https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby"</a>;><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby">https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby</a></a>&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;!--X-Body-of-Message-End--&gt;
&lt;!--X-MsgBody-End--&gt;
&lt;!--X-Follow-Ups--&gt;
&lt;hr&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Follow-Ups&lt;/strong&gt;:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;01949&quot; href=&quot;msg01949.html&quot;&gt;Re: [Seamoby] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-03.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;From:&lt;/em&gt; &amp;quot;Charles E. Perkins&amp;quot; &amp;lt;charliep@iprg.nokia.com&amp;gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;!--X-Follow-Ups-End--&gt;
&lt;!--X-References--&gt;
&lt;!--X-References-End--&gt;
&lt;!--X-BotPNI--&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prev by Date:
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;msg01925.html&quot;&gt;[Seamoby] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-03.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next by Date:
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;msg01927.html&quot;&gt;Re: [Seamoby] LWAPP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Previous by thread:
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;msg01925.html&quot;&gt;[Seamoby] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-03.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next by thread:
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;msg01949.html&quot;&gt;Re: [Seamoby] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-03.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Index(es):
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mail2.html#01926&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;threads.html#01926&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thread&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;!--X-BotPNI-End--&gt;
&lt;!--X-User-Footer--&gt;
&lt;!--X-User-Footer-End--&gt;
&lt;/body&gt;
&lt;/html&gt;
</pre>
<!--X-Body-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-End-->
<!--X-Follow-Ups-->
<hr>
<!--X-Follow-Ups-End-->
<!--X-References-->
<!--X-References-End-->
<!--X-BotPNI-->
<ul>
<li>Prev by Date:
<strong><a href="msg01923.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Next by Date:
<strong><a href="msg01925.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Previous by thread:
<strong><a href="msg01923.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Next by thread:
<strong><a href="msg01925.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Index(es):
<ul>
<li><a href="maillist.html#01924"><strong>Date</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="threads.html#01924"><strong>Thread</strong></a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<!--X-BotPNI-End-->
<!--X-User-Footer-->
<!--X-User-Footer-End-->
</body>
</html>
</pre>
<!--X-Body-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-End-->
<!--X-Follow-Ups-->
<hr>
<!--X-Follow-Ups-End-->
<!--X-References-->
<!--X-References-End-->
<!--X-BotPNI-->
<ul>
<li>Prev by Date:
<strong><a href="msg01923.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Next by Date:
<strong><a href="msg01925.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Previous by thread:
<strong><a href="msg01923.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Next by thread:
<strong><a href="msg01925.html">[no subject]</a></strong>
</li>
<li>Index(es):
<ul>
<li><a href="maillist.html#01924"><strong>Date</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="threads.html#01924"><strong>Thread</strong></a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<!--X-BotPNI-End-->
<!--X-User-Footer-->
<!--X-User-Footer-End-->
</body>
</html>