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No problem.

> I don't feel we underspecified IPsec. We simply recommend using IPsec
between ARs when sensitive data is being transferred and saying that the SA
must be permanent and prior to the CT that is going on. You cannot do an IKE
during CTP, it defeats the purpose of CTP to do an exchange that takes 3-4
round trips. That is different than saying the details of IPsec and IKE are
TBD (the latter is more of a handwaving IMHO).
>
> Could you please send the reference on the EAP doc?
>

You can find the citation in Draft Tracker, under the IESG heading on the
the IETF web page.

        jak



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