Re: [sidr] revision to draft-ietf-sidr-roa-validation

[Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>]

> Can you say how it will work during initical deployment in an ISP
> who has many customers?  Go through the list of all customers, asking
> this question?  Go through the list of all mulit-homed customers,
> asking this question?  Do you have a record of those who are multi-homed
> or would you generate one from RV data?

i know of no one who would use the external irr to traverse their bgp
speaking customer list.  which means there probably are some. :)

perhaps two or three keep serious enough data in internal irr instances,
e.g. ntt, level(3).  but even then, i doubt those are their 'data of
record.'

depending on their scale and level of automation, folk track their
delegated customers by various means from text files, to some commercial
and open source products, to custom apps with sql databases.  but they
do track them.  have to for ip management reasons and to explain space
utilization to upstream allocator(s).

sure, there will be a few slobs and mistakes.  we call that operations.
but the rpki roll-out will shake messes out of the system from iana on
down.  hell, right now, arin and ripe are signing 0/0.

randy