Re: [Simple] WGLC: XCAP Base

[Aki Niemi <aki.niemi at nokia.com>]

On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 03:30, ext Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:

> We've been through this, Aki.

Sorry about that, Jonathan. I now remember seeing the issue on the list
but with vacations and all it had simply slipped out of the memory
banks...

> I proposed extensive text onto the list (on 6/24/04) on a framework for 
> Etag scopes that we *could* support in order to allow what you are 
> talking about. As I wrote up the details, the complexity just grew and 
> grew, and it hit the point that I didnt have any good ideas on how to 
> practically implement it. As such, an open issue was raised (Issue 8), 
> and the list consensus was to simplify, and keep etags scoped to a document.

I agree with the complexity this would bring. In fact, reading the
concrete proposal text made my stomach turn ;) 

Since the scope markers would simply have the same effect as splitting
the document would have, why bother.

> We also heard from Scott Lawrence today that having the etag scope to a 
> document was really an essential feature for using HTTP as well.
> 
> As such, I am disinclined to revisit this open issue, as we've been 
> through it a few times already. Unless you can bring a new workable 
> proposal to the table, I think we should stay with the current solution.

Agreed, so let's stick to option 1 (scope is always the full document).

That in mind, perhaps we could add text to the chapter that contains
guidelines to application usage that highlights this issue, and explains
how one might go about avoiding this. 

Namely, that splitting the document into several documents, where it is
important to have etags apply to a certain place only. (That combined
with naming conventions for the "starting place" will do exactly what I
was actually looking for).

Again sorry for totally missing the discussion of this issue the first
time around.

Cheers,
Aki 

> -Jonathan R.
> 
> 

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