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Re: [Simple] <note> in IMDN
It for the IMDN to carry extra information about the IM. For example,
information on why it was not delivered.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<imdn xlmns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:imdn">
<message-id>34jk324j</message-id>
<datetime>2006-04-04T12:16:49-05:00</datetime>
<recipient-uri>im:bob at example.com <im%3Abob at example.com>
</recipient-uri>
<original-recipient-uri>
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:17:37 +1000
From: "Hisham Khartabil" <hisham.khartabil at gmail.com>
To: "Eric Burger" <eburger at standardstrack.com>
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Subject: Re: [Simple] <note> in IMDN
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It for the IMDN to carry extra information about the IM. For example, information on why it was not delivered.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<imdn xlmns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:imdn">
<message-id>34jk324j</message-id>
<datetime>2006-04-04T12:16:49-05:00</datetime>
<recipient-uri>
im:bob at example.com</recipient-uri>
<original-recipient-uri>
im:bob at example.com
</original-recipient-uri>
<disposition>
<delivery/>
</disposition>
<status>
<failed/>
</status>
<note lang="en">The IM could not be delivered due to network failure</note>
</imdn>
On 13/05/2008, Eric Burger <eburger at standardstrack.com> wrote:
Why do we have a <note> field in an IMDN?
It cannot be for correlation, as the sender MUST have a Message-ID.
It cannot be for letting the user what the message is, because we are
talking about IMs here, not e-mails.
It cannot be for displaying status to the IM sender, because the IM
Recipient UA has no idea what the locale of the sender is and will
undoubtably use the wrong language and character set.
It could be used as a spam attack vector, but that would be silly of
us to build in to a protocol.
Does ANYONE object to simply taking out the field?
Does ANYONE want the field to be present?
Please respond to the list ASAP, as this document is WAY overdue.
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On 13/05/2008, Eric Burger <eburger at standardstrack.com> wrote:
>
> Why do we have a <note> field in an IMDN?
>
> It cannot be for correlation, as the sender MUST have a Message-ID.
>
> It cannot be for letting the user what the message is, because we are
> talking about IMs here, not e-mails.
>
> It cannot be for displaying status to the IM sender, because the IM
> Recipient UA has no idea what the locale of the sender is and will
> undoubtably use the wrong language and character set.
>
> It could be used as a spam attack vector, but that would be silly of
> us to build in to a protocol.
>
> Does ANYONE object to simply taking out the field?
> Does ANYONE want the field to be present?
>
> Please respond to the list ASAP, as this document is WAY overdue.
> _______________________________________________
> Simple mailing list
> Simple at ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple
>
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<div>It for the IMDN to carry extra information about the IM. For example, information on why it was not delivered.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><br> <imdn xlmns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:imdn"><br> <message-id>34jk324j</message-id><br> <datetime>2006-04-04T12:16:49-05:00</datetime><br>
<recipient-uri><a href="mailto:im%3Abob at example.com">im:bob at example.com</a></recipient-uri><br> <original-recipient-uri><br> <a href="mailto:im%3Abob at example.com">im:bob at example.com</a><br>
</original-recipient-uri><br> <disposition><br> <delivery/><br> </disposition><br> <status><br> <failed/><br> </status><br> <note lang="en">The IM could not be delivered due to network failure</note><br>
</imdn><br><br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 13/05/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Eric Burger</b> <<a href="mailto:eburger at standardstrack.com">eburger at standardstrack.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Why do we have a <note> field in an IMDN?<br><br>It cannot be for correlation, as the sender MUST have a Message-ID.<br>
<br>It cannot be for letting the user what the message is, because we are<br>talking about IMs here, not e-mails.<br><br>It cannot be for displaying status to the IM sender, because the IM<br>Recipient UA has no idea what the locale of the sender is and will<br>
undoubtably use the wrong language and character set.<br><br>It could be used as a spam attack vector, but that would be silly of<br>us to build in to a protocol.<br><br>Does ANYONE object to simply taking out the field?<br>
Does ANYONE want the field to be present?<br><br>Please respond to the list ASAP, as this document is WAY overdue.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Simple mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Simple at ietf.org">Simple at ietf.org</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple";>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple</a><br></blockquote></div><br>
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