I agree with the room sense approach. Publishing
both in the same timeframe, may create even more confusion in this area.
I am not even sure that providing both will not raise questions from the
IESG when we will reach to that stage.
--Avshalom
From:
Ben Campbell <ben at nostrum.com>
To:
Simple WG <simple at ietf.org>
Date:
30/07/2009 03:45 PM
Subject:
Re: [Simple] simple-chat status
Sent by:
simple-bounces at ietf.org
(As chair)
The sense of the room in Stockholm was that we no longer needed the
simple-chat as it currently exists, but that we did need to make sure
we preserved the information in it that describes how a focus works
with MSRP and message/cpim, whether as a scaled down version of simple-
chat or as an addition to the XCON documents.
I'd like to make a consensus call on the list to confirm or deny that
approach. (I just saw Hisham's email--what do other's think?)
Thanks!
ben.
On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
> (as SIMPLE chair)
>
> Hi,
>
> We originally started work on draft-ietf-simple-chat back in 2007,
> with the idea that we could finish it quickly, and have something
> that works prior to completion of similar, but more general work in
> XCON.
>
> It's been two years now, so we clearly didn't finish it quickly, and
> it's been sitting without update or discussion since last spring.
> (Please don't take that as a complaint against the authors. I don't
> mean it that way--we're all busy here.) We are looking at how to get
> the draft moving again, but there's an important question we should
> address first:
>
> Is simple-chat still relevant? Should we take the effort to fix it,
> or should we shoot that milestone in the head?
>
> To recap, we WGLC'd simple-chat last April. There were non-trivial
> (but not necessarily earth-shattering) issues brought up in the
> feedback. That is, there's still at least a bit of work left to do
> on it.
>
> Perhaps Adam or Alan could comment on the status of the related work
> in XCON?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ben.
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