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-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Willis [mailto:dean.willis@softarmor.com]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:29 PM
To: IETF SIP
Cc: Brian Rosen (E-mail); Joerg Ott; Scott Bradner (E-mail); Allison
Mankin (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Sip] SIP WG Agenda, IETF 51


Ok, it's been brought to my attention that since the draft agenda was
proposed:

1) The heated debate on provisional reliable responses has been
effectively
concluded.
2)  We've allocated more time than is needed to the proxy-supported
discussion.
3)  The new session-timer draft may need some discussion
4) I failed to allocate time for 2543bis

If there are no strenuous objections, I would suggest changing the
agenda
to:

Session 1: 6Aug01 0900-1130, King's Suite/Balmoral 2
0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs
0910 Status Review -- Chairs
0920 Last Call Process and Report -- Chairs
0930 Call Control Extensions
    draft-biggs-sip-replaces-01.txt -- Billy Biggs
    draft-ietf-sip-refer-00.txt -- Robert Sparks
1000 Events (Two Issues)
    draft-ietf-sip-events-00.txt -- Adam Roach
1030 Early Media Extensions
    draft-sen-sip-earlymedia-00.txt -- Jayshree Bharatia
    draft-rosenberg-sip-early-media-00.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
1100 SIP and NAT Extensions
    draft-boer-sip-src-00.txt -- Michel de Boer
    draft-rosenberg-sip-entfw-02.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
1120 Changes in Session Timer -- Jonathan Rosenberg
1130 break
Note: Any additional time will be used to start 2543bis issues

Session 2: 7Aug01 0900-1130 King's Suite/Sandringham
0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs
0910 Message Integrity via Digest
    draft-undery-sip-digest-00.txt -- James Undery
    draft-rosenberg-sip-http-pnonce-00.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
0930 Proxy Server Features Negotiation
    draft-hoeneisen-sip-proxy-supported-00.txt -- Bernie Hoeneisen
    draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
0950 Reliability of Provisional Messages Extensions
    draft-kiss-sip-s100rel-00.txt -- Krisztian Kiss
    draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
1000 Changes and Issues in the 2543bis draft -- Jonathan Rosenberg
1120 Discussion of Remote-Party Extensions
    Remote Party ID, Caller Preferences ID, REFER Source -- Alan
Johnston
1130 Close



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Willis" <dean.willis@softarmor.com>
To: <agenda@ietf.org>
Cc: "Brian Rosen (E-mail)" <Brian.Rosen@marconi.com>; "Joerg Ott"
<jo@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE>; "Scott Bradner (E-mail)"
<sob@harvard.edu>;
"Allison Mankin (E-mail)" <mankin@isi.edu>; "IETF SIP" <sip@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:07 PM
Subject: [Sip] SIP WG Agenda, IETF 51


> The following is the agenda for SIP (Session INitiation Protocol) WG
at
IETF
> 51.
>
> ----------------------------
>
> Session 1: 6Aug01 0900-1130, King's Suite/Balmoral 2
> 0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs
> 0910 Status Review -- Chairs
> 0920 Last Call Process and Report -- Chairs
> 0930 Call Control Extensions
> draft-biggs-sip-replaces-01.txt -- Billy Biggs
> draft-ietf-sip-refer-00.txt -- Robert Sparks
> 1000 Events (Two Issues)
> draft-ietf-sip-events-00.txt -- Adam Roach
> 1030 Early Media Extensions
> draft-sen-sip-earlymedia-00.txt -- Jayshree Bharatia
> draft-rosenberg-sip-early-media-00.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
> 1100 SIP and NAT Extensions
> draft-boer-sip-src-00.txt -- Michel de Boer
> draft-rosenberg-sip-entfw-02.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
> 1130 break
>
>
> Session 2: 7Aug01 0900-1130 King's Suite/Sandringham
> 0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs
> 0910 Message Integrity via Digest
> draft-undery-sip-digest-00.txt -- James Undery
> draft-rosenberg-sip-http-pnonce-00.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
> 0930 Proxy Server Features Negotiation
> draft-hoeneisen-sip-proxy-supported-00.txt -- Bernie Hoeneisen
> draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
> 1000 Reliability of Provisional Messages Extensions
> draft-kiss-sip-s100rel-00.txt -- Krisztian Kiss
> draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg
> 1030 Discussion of Remote-Party Extensions
> Remote Party ID, Caller Preferences ID, REFER Source -- Alan Johnston
> 1100 Discussion of Further Open Issues
> 1130 Close
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sip mailing list  http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
> This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
> Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip
> Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
>


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>From the looks of it, the SIP WG agenda will include =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--Andy Zmolek</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Technology &amp; Standards =
Engineer</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CTO Standards</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Avaya =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Dean Willis [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:dean.willis@softarmor.com">mailto:dean.willis@softarmor.co=
m</A>]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:29 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: IETF SIP</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: Brian Rosen (E-mail); Joerg Ott; Scott Bradner =
(E-mail); Allison</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mankin (E-mail)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Sip] SIP WG Agenda, IETF 51</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ok, it's been brought to my attention that since the =
draft agenda was</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>proposed:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1) The heated debate on provisional reliable responses =
has been effectively</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>concluded.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2)&nbsp; We've allocated more time than is needed to =
the proxy-supported</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>discussion.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3)&nbsp; The new session-timer draft may need some =
discussion</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>4) I failed to allocate time for 2543bis</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If there are no strenuous objections, I would suggest =
changing the agenda</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Session 1: 6Aug01 0900-1130, King's Suite/Balmoral =
2</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0910 Status Review -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0920 Last Call Process and Report -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0930 Call Control Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-biggs-sip-replaces-01.txt -- =
Billy Biggs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-sip-refer-00.txt -- =
Robert Sparks</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1000 Events (Two Issues)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-sip-events-00.txt -- =
Adam Roach</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1030 Early Media Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-sen-sip-earlymedia-00.txt -- =
Jayshree Bharatia</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
draft-rosenberg-sip-early-media-00.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1100 SIP and NAT Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-boer-sip-src-00.txt -- =
Michel de Boer</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-rosenberg-sip-entfw-02.txt =
-- Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1120 Changes in Session Timer -- Jonathan =
Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1130 break</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Note: Any additional time will be used to start =
2543bis issues</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Session 2: 7Aug01 0900-1130 King's =
Suite/Sandringham</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0910 Message Integrity via Digest</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-undery-sip-digest-00.txt -- =
James Undery</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
draft-rosenberg-sip-http-pnonce-00.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0930 Proxy Server Features Negotiation</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
draft-hoeneisen-sip-proxy-supported-00.txt -- Bernie Hoeneisen</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0950 Reliability of Provisional Messages =
Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-kiss-sip-s100rel-00.txt -- =
Krisztian Kiss</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1000 Changes and Issues in the 2543bis draft -- =
Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1120 Discussion of Remote-Party Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Remote Party ID, Caller =
Preferences ID, REFER Source -- Alan Johnston</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>1130 Close</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>----- Original Message -----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: &quot;Dean Willis&quot; =
&lt;dean.willis@softarmor.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: &lt;agenda@ietf.org&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: &quot;Brian Rosen (E-mail)&quot; =
&lt;Brian.Rosen@marconi.com&gt;; &quot;Joerg Ott&quot;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;jo@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE&gt;; &quot;Scott =
Bradner (E-mail)&quot; &lt;sob@harvard.edu&gt;;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;Allison Mankin (E-mail)&quot; =
&lt;mankin@isi.edu&gt;; &quot;IETF SIP&quot; &lt;sip@ietf.org&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:07 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [Sip] SIP WG Agenda, IETF 51</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The following is the agenda for SIP (Session =
INitiation Protocol) WG at</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>IETF</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 51.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----------------------------</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Session 1: 6Aug01 0900-1130, King's =
Suite/Balmoral 2</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0910 Status Review -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0920 Last Call Process and Report -- =
Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0930 Call Control Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-biggs-sip-replaces-01.txt -- Billy =
Biggs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-ietf-sip-refer-00.txt -- Robert =
Sparks</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1000 Events (Two Issues)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-ietf-sip-events-00.txt -- Adam =
Roach</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1030 Early Media Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-sen-sip-earlymedia-00.txt -- Jayshree =
Bharatia</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-rosenberg-sip-early-media-00.txt -- =
Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1100 SIP and NAT Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-boer-sip-src-00.txt -- Michel de =
Boer</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-rosenberg-sip-entfw-02.txt -- Jonathan =
Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1130 break</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Session 2: 7Aug01 0900-1130 King's =
Suite/Sandringham</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0900 Agenda Bash -- Chairs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0910 Message Integrity via Digest</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-undery-sip-digest-00.txt -- James =
Undery</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-rosenberg-sip-http-pnonce-00.txt -- =
Jonathan Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 0930 Proxy Server Features Negotiation</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-hoeneisen-sip-proxy-supported-00.txt -- =
Bernie Hoeneisen</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan =
Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1000 Reliability of Provisional Messages =
Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-kiss-sip-s100rel-00.txt -- Krisztian =
Kiss</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-ietf-sip-serverfeatures-05.txt -- Jonathan =
Rosenberg</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1030 Discussion of Remote-Party =
Extensions</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Remote Party ID, Caller Preferences ID, REFER =
Source -- Alan Johnston</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1100 Discussion of Further Open Issues</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1130 Close</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =
_______________________________________________</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sip mailing list&nbsp; <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip">http://www.ietf.org/mai=
lman/listinfo/sip</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; This list is for NEW development of the core SIP =
Protocol</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for =
questions on current sip</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the =
application of sip</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>_______________________________________________</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sip mailing list&nbsp; <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip">http://www.ietf.org/mai=
lman/listinfo/sip</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>This list is for NEW development of the core SIP =
Protocol</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on =
current sip</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the =
application of sip</FONT>
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