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You may be right that the behaviour if it is received is not specified. If a
P-Asserted-Identity is present, then I would expect the P-Preferred-Identity
to be discarded (they should not coexist). If there is no
P-Asserted-Identity, then I suppose the Proxy could behave as if the message
were received from outside the Trust Domain...

If P-Preferred-Identity is received from outside the Trust Domain, the proxy
attempts to authenticate the originator of the message.

You ask whether the proxy MAY or MUST use the P-Preferred-Identity, but I'm
not sure the question makes sense. If it were a MAY, then whether to use it
or not must be a matter of local policy for the proxy. If it were a MUST,
then as long as the P-Preferred-Identity is 'a valid identity for that user'
then it MUST use it. But the list of 'valid identities for that user' is a
matter of local policy too. So there is no difference.

For example, if the proxy NEVER uses P-Preferred-Identity, then this is
equivalent to saying that there is only one valid identity for the user.

Regards,

Mark Watson
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hbhondwe@hss.hns.com [mailto:hbhondwe@hss.hns.com]
> Sent: 29 October 2002 05:30
> To: sip@ietf.org
> Cc: hbhondwe@hss.hns.com
> Subject: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-asserted-identity-02.txt: ppi 
> from trusted
> entity
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Section 6 does not seem to explicitely specify proxy's behaviour when
> p-preferred-identity header is received by a proxy from a 
> trusted entity:
> 
> a)preferred identity corresponds to a valid identify known to 
> the proxy for
> that user.
> -MUST the proxy use this identity or  MAY it ? I assume it MUST.
> b)preferred identity does not correspond to a valid identity 
> known to the
> proxy for that user.
> -Should the proxy behaviour be same as when the entity from which the
> header was received is not trusted.
> 
> 
> thanks
> harsh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Harsh,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>From memory, a proxy should not expect to receive =
P-Preferred-Identity from another member of the Trust Domain for =
Asserted Identity.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You may be right that the behaviour if it is received =
is not specified. If a P-Asserted-Identity is present, then I would =
expect the P-Preferred-Identity to be discarded (they should not =
coexist). If there is no P-Asserted-Identity, then I suppose the Proxy =
could behave as if the message were received from outside the Trust =
Domain...</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If P-Preferred-Identity is received from outside the =
Trust Domain, the proxy attempts to authenticate the originator of the =
message.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You ask whether the proxy MAY or MUST use the =
P-Preferred-Identity, but I'm not sure the question makes sense. If it =
were a MAY, then whether to use it or not must be a matter of local =
policy for the proxy. If it were a MUST, then as long as the =
P-Preferred-Identity is 'a valid identity for that user' then it MUST =
use it. But the list of 'valid identities for that user' is a matter of =
local policy too. So there is no difference.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>For example, if the proxy NEVER uses =
P-Preferred-Identity, then this is equivalent to saying that there is =
only one valid identity for the user.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mark Watson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: hbhondwe@hss.hns.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:hbhondwe@hss.hns.com";>mailto:hbhondwe@hss.hns.com</A>]</F=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: 29 October 2002 05:30</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: sip@ietf.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: hbhondwe@hss.hns.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: [Sip] =
draft-ietf-sip-asserted-identity-02.txt: ppi </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; from trusted</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; entity</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hi,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Section 6 does not seem to explicitely specify =
proxy's behaviour when</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; p-preferred-identity header is received by a =
proxy from a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; trusted entity:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; a)preferred identity corresponds to a valid =
identify known to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the proxy for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; that user.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -MUST the proxy use this identity or&nbsp; MAY =
it ? I assume it MUST.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; b)preferred identity does not correspond to a =
valid identity </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; known to the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; proxy for that user.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -Should the proxy behaviour be same as when the =
entity from which the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; header was received is not trusted.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; thanks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; harsh</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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