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RE: [Sip] NOTIFY establishes a dialog
Hisham
The reason the Record_Route headers must be sent on the 200 is that the 1xx
is not guaranteed to be delivered, unless they are sent reliably.
I think in the context of the Notify crossing the 200, the arrival of the
200 will establish the Route set for future requests. Each transaction
completes independently.
I am copying in a old message on this subject from the sip list below that
you may find useful - (I think it would have been useful to state this in
the RFC3261).
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arunachalam Venkatraman [mailto:arunvenk@cisco.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:39 PM
> To: sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu
> Cc: Jonathan Rosenberg
> Subject: Replace Contact in Route set ?
>
> As per the protocol, the Contact header is added to the end of the Route
header.
>
> Suppose a Record-Route was first received in a message with a Contact C1.
> The UA has built a route set with the Contact C1 at the bottom of the
Route.
>
> If the next request to the UA has a new Contact C2, should C1 in the Route
Set be replaced
> with C2?
>
Yes. And if there was no Contact, don't change anything.
Note that if the next request has new record-routes, those do NOT update the
existing route sets.
-Jonathan R.
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-----Original Message-----
From: sip-admin@ietf.org [mailto:sip-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
hisham.khartabil@nokia.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:48 PM
To: sip@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Sip] NOTIFY establishes a dialog
I have a few related questions/comments:
- A 180 response to a request (like INVITE) establishes a dialog. This 180
response carries record-route headers and therefore sets the route-set. The
200 response to the request might also carry record-route headers. The
dialog transitions to confirmed state, but I assume the route-set does not
get updated using the record-route headers in the 200 response since the
dialog is established already. Is this a correct assumption? should the UAS
send record-route headers at all in the 200 if it sent a 1xx already?
Should there be a mandate that 1xx and 2xx response carry the same
record-route headers? You would assume that this happens naturally at the
UAS, but proxies may play around with the record-route headers.
- In the NOTIFY problem below, the NOTIFY establishes the dialog, but does
not carry record-route headers. If the same assumption is made as above, the
record-route headers appearing in the 200 response to the SUBSCRIBE are
ignored since the dialog is in established state. Isn't this a problem? the
route-set is lost.
I appreciate some clarifications.
Regards,
Hisham
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext hisham.khartabil@nokia.com
> [mailto:hisham.khartabil@nokia.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:37 PM
> To: sip@ietf.org
> Subject: [Sip] NOTIFY establishes a dialog
>
>
> In RFC3265, it is mentioned that NOTIFY can certainly
> establish a dialog if it arrives before the 200 of a
> SUBSCRIBE. What happens when the 200 for the SUBSCRIBE now
> arrives with record-route headers? Does the route-set get
> updated? (keeping in mind that the dialog is now in the
> established state).
>
> Regards,
> Hisham
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