RE: [Sip] RE: TLS meaning

["Francois Audet" <audet at nortel.com>]

> No. I do not require a signaling element to decide whether to 
> route via SIP/TLS or  just SIP. I can just as easily 
> statically provision it. Or I can try it on a SIP/TLS 
> listener port first. Or any other way to do the same thing.

You do if if it's the originator that wants to use TLS hop-by-hop.

> In any case, you didn't respond to my point that SIPS is not 
> end to end security. That's just false on its face, and the 
> seeming fact that you don't get the difference is the tip of 
> a very problematic iceberg.

We all understand that sips is NOT an end-to-end security protocol,
no need to insult people.

In any case, what I haven't heard from you is a useful proposal on
what you would actually do.

We're just trying to deal with the cards we are given. 

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