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RE: [Sip] Question about Poll: Proposal relating to keepalive, TCP, and UDP usage in draft-ietf-sip-outbound
- To: "Juha Heinanen" <jh at tutpro.com>
- Subject: RE: [Sip] Question about Poll: Proposal relating to keepalive, TCP, and UDP usage in draft-ietf-sip-outbound
- From: "Brian Stucker" <bstucker at nortel.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:06:56 -0600
- Cc: Cullen Jennings <fluffy at cisco.com>, SIP <sip at ietf.org>, Francois Audet <audet at nortel.com>, Dean Willis <dean.willis at softarmor.com>
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- Thread-topic: [Sip] Question about Poll: Proposal relating to keepalive, TCP, and UDP usage in draft-ietf-sip-outbound
As I said, there are networks where TCP is less efficient than UDP and
there are no NAT complications to be concerned about.
I don't think outbound is so fundamental to the operation of SIP as to
force people to change out their transport protocol to get the benefits.
There are other ways that people have been solving this problem without
the benefit of a standard. I doubt that dropping support for UDP is
likely to get them to move away from these mechanisms faster than if
they had support for outbound with UDP.
Regards,
Brian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:jh at tutpro.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:49 PM
> To: Stucker, Brian (RICH1:AR00)
> Cc: Dean Willis; Cullen Jennings; SIP; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> Subject: RE: [Sip] Question about Poll: Proposal relating to
> keepalive, TCP, and UDP usage in draft-ietf-sip-outbound
>
> Brian Stucker writes:
>
> > IMHO-- we should be flexible in this regard. Make sure
> that the UDP > behavior is at least minimally specified in
> the standard (warts and all) > and then work outside of
> standards with customers so that they fully > appreciate
> (and properly value) what they're getting with TCP that >
> they're not getting with UDP. At that point I think the whole
> debate > will resolve itself because the number of
> implementations wanting to use > UDP will drop.
>
> i would think that the drop will be faster if there is no
> support for UDP in outbound.
>
> -- juha
>
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