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Re: [Sip] submission of a new I-D: "Dialog Event foRIdentityVErification"



Hi Dan,
Please, see my comments inline.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Dan Wing <dwing at cisco.com> wrote:
>> 2008/10/28 Dan Wing <dwing at cisco.com>:
>> > Here is another return routability check,
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-sip-e164-rrc-01#section-3.1
>> > (My I-D expired due to lack of interest.)
>>
>> It uses RFC 4474, certificates... is it really feasible in
>> this real world?
>
> No, it doesn't use RFC4474.  The steps merely show where an RFC4474
> signature could be performed.  If no RFC4474 signatures are
> being created, or validated, those steps are the 'null operation'
> (not performed).  Without those steps, it is remarkably similar
> to DERIVE.
>
>> IMHO "Dialog Event foR Identity VErification" is the more feasible
>> solution at the moment.
>
> The differences are minor.

The Return Routability Check (RRC) determines if a domain rightfully
'owns' an E.164 phone number, but DOES NOT prevent an attacker from
presenting a forged "From" header field.

As an example:

INVITE sip:victor at tekelec.com SIP/2.0
From: +14085551234 <sip:+14085551234 at iptel.org;user=phone>;tag=9fxced76sl
To: Victor <sip:victor at tekelec.com>
Call-ID: 3848276298220188511 at iptel.org
Contact: <sip:attacker at pc1.attacker.com>
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: ...

[SDP not shown]

Where iptel.org owns the +14085551234 number.

Section 3.2:
-The SUBSCRIBE should be immediately acknowledged
-A NOTIFY should be immediately created and sent


Moreover IMO:
- it requires the use of signatures (or RFC4474): see Sections 3, 3.1 and 3.2
- it is defined to be used only with e164-based SIP URIs

In short, this is a good document but, as I mentioned before, ONLY
determines if a domain rightfully 'owns' an E.164 phone number, it
doesn't ask "are you calling me?"

Thanks a lot for your comments,
-- 
Victor Pascual Ávila
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