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Re: [Sipping] FYI - my I-D about SIP usage scenarios similar to SPIT - Fwd: I-D Action:draft-york-spit-similarity-scenarios-00.txt



Hi Dan,

that's a nice document and fits well into the discussions around the development of clever techniques to learn the behavior of users to distinguish "good" from "bad" calls. There are obviously plenty of challenges for folks working on these techniques.

You are right that existing documents did not describe the algorithms as such. This has lead a couple of folks to believe that they do not work too well in a real-world setting.

Ciao
Hannes


Dan York wrote:
FYI, after reading RFC 5039 and some of the other drafts out related to voice spam/SPIT it seemed to me that, unless I missed it, the documents don't seem to address the issue of what SPIT could look like at a network level. For instance, if a network administrator monitoring network traffic suddenly saw a large flood of SIP INVITE packets coming into his/her network, it could be:

1. a telemarketer/spammer launching a flood of SIP connections to deliver SPIT;
2. an attacker launching a DoS attack through one of the various SIP attack tools out there; or
3. a legitimate notification system starting to notify a range of SIP endpoints.


It was this last case of legitimate traffic that concerned me and so I put together an I-D talking about the types of legitimate systems that might generate a significant volume of traffic that could resemble SPIT (or a DoS attack).

Comments are very definitely welcome. Are there other scenarios I should include? Am I overstating the case? or what?

Thanks,
Dan

P.S. As this is also my first Internet-Draft I've actually ever submitted, comments about form, content, etc. are also welcome. It had been a while since I'd been doing XML publishing (used to do a ton of DocBook) but I have to say that 'xml2rfc' is a very nice tool!

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Date: January 16, 2008 4:40:02 PM EST
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    Title           : SIP Usage Scenarios Similar to SPIT
    Author(s)       : D. York
    Filename        : draft-york-spit-similarity-scenarios-00.txt
    Pages           : 10
    Date            : 2008-01-16

This document outlines scenarios in which legitimate SIP traffic may
appear similar to traffic associated with voice spam, also known as
"SPIT" or "Spam for Internet Telephony.  This document is created to
provide input into the current discussions about how best to address
the issue of SPIT.

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