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Re: [ssm] msnip status



FWIW I do not think that dropping the MRD option was a show stopper for MSNIP. The reason the work stalled was that there was no interest. I agree with Toerless that it was a key piece for SSM.

Isidor

Toerless Eckert wrote:
Brian: What exactly where the points that stopped the last MSNIP draft
from moving forward ? I unfortunately don't remember the details,
and in general i'm of course annoyed that there's no good means in the
IETF to keep that last work status summary alive in case it needs to
get picked up again.

I think MSNIP tried to solve a key functionality for the SSM architecture,
and while it may be possible to ad-hoc hack something similar up once
somebody requires it, i still think that it would be good to have an
IETF recommendation for this functionality.

If we were to release an RFC, we could make it informational. I don't
think that MSNIP itself needs to be focussed on what Pekka is claiming
"universal adoption". Because it only applies to sources, it will always
tender only to comparably much fewer places than for example IGMP.


Cheers
	Toerless


On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 12:40:30PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote:

Hi Stig,
    The consensus is that msnip is not the solution people want.
Additionally, there has been no one volunteering to work on the
problem in general.

    Combining MSNIP with MRD doesn't make a lot of sense
and any such plans were abandoned.

    If you have people interested in the problem, have them bring
forth ideas.

Regards,
Brian

On Oct 19, 2005, at 8:48, Stig Venaas wrote:


Now that magma is being shut down, what is the future of
draft-ietf-magma-msnip? I know several people that are
interested in seeing this work continue. Are there any
plans for that, or has it more or less been decided that
this is not the way to go? I know there were discussions
on combining it with MRD, but don't think that went
anywhere.

Stig


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