Re: [Tools-discuss] better access to ipr notifications?

[Simon Josefsson <simon at josefsson.org>]

On 20 feb 2008, at 00.37, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> On 2008-02-19 22:21 Simon Josefsson said the following:
>> Hi!  Would it be possible to offer access to the IETF IPR  
>> notifications
>> in a better format than html on https web pages?  Something like  
>> rsync
>> of raw data would be ideal for me.  Even plain http would be more
>> efficient.
>> Right now I have to download the entire tree below
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/ daily to be sure to get all
>> modifications.
>> I don't know whether the tools team is responsible for the ipr  
>> page, but
>> since you are doing such a great job on making everything else in  
>> IETF
>> easily accessible, perhaps the ipr page could be your next target. ;)
>
> The IPR information sits in the ietf database, and the current IPR  
> pages
> are dynamically generated.  However, it sounds like a marvellous  
> idea for
> the Philly Code Sprint to provide the information in the database in a
> format which would be more easily accessible.
>
> I've done some work on a table-format prototype,
>  (http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/ipr/list-specific/)
> but for your purpose XML or CSV would maybe be better?  Would you  
> like to
> propose a format?

Sure!  What kind of information is actually stored in the database?   
The html pages are somewhat opaque, and it isn't clear to me if each  
field has its own database column, or whether all ipr information (in  
html) for a particular id is stored as one big entry.

As for xml or csv, I don't have a strong preference.  If html code is  
stored in the database, xml will be rather ugly.

If you give an example of a database row for one ipr notification, I  
can suggest some text format for it.  Are you using a sql database?

A big question for me is also whether the information is immutable,  
or whether each ipr notification can be modified.  This affects  
whether I need to mirror all ipr information every time, and time  
stamp it, or whether I can just look for new id's.  It seems right  
now that notifications can be modified in the sense that they can be  
deleted.  I wonder if these kind of questions may be answered by any  
IETF IPR policy document.

/Simon

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