Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages"

[Pekka Savola <pekkas at netcore.fi>]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Also, at least draft-iab-iwout-report is listed as Expired, even though 
>> those should be RFC published (RFC4948 in this case).
>
> Right.  Again, I'll point to the datatracker database being out of
> date.  In this case, I do have alternative datasources to use; I'll
> do a re-write to use the more direct source for this (i.e., publication
> status).

This seems to be due to the datatracker/database bug that affected a 
couple of other documents as well (e.g., that's the reason why 
'draft-iab-dns-choices moved to Dead and its state is still Dead even 
though it's in IAB's version of Last Call).  I recall discussing this 
with Bill Fenner but can't find it in my mail archive.  The problem is 
that when some documents were expired (some of them erroneously), the 
datatracker moved them from whatever state they were at (the 
dns-choices having been 'AD is watching') to Dead.

I'd guess this issue is related.  Those documents which were expired 
in this fashion and moved to Dead have fallen through the cracks in 
their status has not been updated.

>> On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why 
>> 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document.
>
> Well, right.  But guess what I'm going to say here ,;-) ...
>
> That what the ietf database has it classified as ,,:-}
>
> Suggestions for action/improvement?

I wonder what IETF database you're talking about?  The public 
datatracker does not know anything about draft-zinin-early-review.
Is the information obtained from some other database or why doesn't it 
show on the public datatracker?

With regard to the two IAB documents, until a document moves out of 
the "I-D exists" state, it appears it cannot be associated with WG or 
group context.

As an improvement, I would consider WG documents all those documents 
which have draft-ietf-<wg> or draft-{iab,iesg} naming and additionally 
those which are specifically marked as a WG/group document in the 
tracker.

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Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
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