Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009

[Brian Weis <bew at cisco.com>]

I also reviewed it in June, had questions, and was satisfied with the  
responses (last message sent to the list 6/4/09). I believe it's ready  
for WGLC.

Brian

On Nov 5, 2009, at 11:50 AM, ken carlberg wrote:

> I reviewed the document back in June, and was satisfied with the  
> exchange and changes made to the last draft.  I had actually assumed  
> it was ready for WGLC a while back.  So if you are in need of a  
> voice to say, "go ahead"....well, go ahead :-)
>
> -ken
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James M. Polk wrote:
>
> > Francois
> >
> > This is directly from the meeting minutes:
> >
> > "The WG will now take this to LC. People who have commented prior to
> > WGLC please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for  
> > publication."
> >
> > Which is close - but not exactly how I remember things.  I remember  
> > asking the room for folks to ping the list and say whether this ID  
> > ready for WGLC. No one on the list has commented since Stockholm  
> > about this ID (up or down) -- so we chairs have hesitated issuing  
> > the WGLC.
> >
> > Perhaps I should have pushed the WG more directly to the list. I  
> > apologize for that.
> >
> > James
> >
> > At 12:55 PM 11/5/2009, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
> > > Hello Gorry, James,
> > >
> > > Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as
> > > (apparently) agreed 4 months ago?
> > >
> > > Francois
> > >
> > > On 26 Oct 2009, at 19:14, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gorry, James,
> > > >
> > > > Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as
> > > > (apparently) agreed 3.5 months ago?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Francois
> > > >
> > > > On 16 Oct 2009, at 15:04, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Gorry, James,
> > > > >
> > > > > Independently of getting the Status Report corrected, my
> > > > > understanding is that draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying
> > > > > has been declared ready to go to WGLC 3 months ago as per the
> > > > > Stockholm meeting minutes. Could you please:
> > > > >       (i) either issue the Last Call
> > > > >       (ii) or let us know if there are outstanding thing sin the  
> > > > > way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Francois
> > > > >
> > > > > On 16 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gorry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO)
> > > > > > Milestone: Nov 2009
> > > > > > - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to  
> > > > > > IESG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC
> > > > > > Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC.
> > > > > > Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this.
> > > > > > JP will shepherd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe this status not to be correct. Please refer to
> > > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tsvwg/minutes?item=minutes75.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "          The WG will now take this to LC. People who have
> > > > > > commented prior to WGLC
> > > > > >       please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for
> > > > > > publication.
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My understanding from the last meeting was that:
> > > > > > - the chairs would issue a WGLC (quite explicitly in the notes)
> > > > > > - people who have commented before to quickly confirm that their
> > > > > > concerns
> > > > > > have been addressed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please also refer to my mail to the list from 8 Sep
> > > > > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tsvwg/current/msg09448.html
> > > > > > Where I asked whether there are any open issues, and I was not
> > > > > > told about any.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So in my understanding the document should be in the section
> > > > > > ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you please confirm this or correct my statements above?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: tsvwg-bounces at ietf.org on behalf of Gorry Fairhurst
> > > > > > Sent: Thu 08-Oct-09 15:46
> > > > > > To: tsvwg WG
> > > > > > Cc: tsvwg chair
> > > > > > Subject: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've summarised the list of drafts I know about in TSVWG and  
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > current state. Please do take time to read this. If there are
> > > > > > omissions
> > > > > > or corrections, do let me know and I'll fix them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - If you are an author please do update your document before the
> > > > > > deadline for the next IETF (not so many weeks from now!!) I see  
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > document is even expired with pending comments!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - If you have comments on these drafts, please let us know. If we
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > going to things completed by the milestones, we'll need people to
> > > > > > comment on the documents and new revisions to be published.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gorry & James
> > > > > > (as TSVWG Chairs)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ======== TSVWG STATUS 8th OCT 2009 ========
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ================ IESG Processing ================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-approaches-07 (as INFO)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes: None.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-proto-09 (as PS)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes: None.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-emergency-rsvp-12 (as PS)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Status:  In WGLC (Shepherd = Gorry Fairhurst)
> > > > > > ACTION: WG Review reports, and notes of usefulness are needed.
> > > > > > Notes: {WGLCTo end: 17th October 2009}
> > > > > > 8th Oct - currently no nodes of support or comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-randomization-04 (as BCP)
> > > > > > Milestone: Nov 2009
> > > > > > - Submit 'Port Randomization for Transport Protocols' to the IESG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = James Polk)
> > > > > > ACTION: JP to close the LC discussions and provide write-up.
> > > > > > Notes: WGLC concluded April 15th
> > > > > > New revision posted 3rd July - awaiting response by James Polk.=
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ================ With WG ================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-admitted-realtime-dscp-05 (as PS)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = Magnus Westerlund)
> > > > > > ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
> > > > > > Notes: JP to make final edits (based on Magnus' AD comments)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-strrst-00 (as PS)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO)
> > > > > > Milestone: Nov 2009
> > > > > > - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to  
> > > > > > IESG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC
> > > > > > Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC.
> > > > > > Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this.
> > > > > > JP will shepherd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-02 (as BCP)
> > > > > > Milestone:  Dec 2009
> > > > > > -'IANA Procedures for the Transport Protocol Port Number Space'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
> > > > > > Notes:  GF will shepherd.
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpsocket-19 (as INFO)
> > > > > > Milestone: Dec 2009
> > > > > > - 'Sockets API Extensions for SCTP' to IESG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
> > > > > > Notes: Lacks a good IANA section, and  security consideration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-03 (as PS)
> > > > > > Milestone: Jan 2010
> > > > > > - 'Layered Encapsulation of Congestion Notification'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome)
> > > > > > Notes: Substantial review of previous version.
> > > > > > GF and David Black to confirm if issues raised were answered.
> > > > > > New material needs review.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-dtls-for-sctp-01 (as PS)
> > > > > > Milestone: Dec 2009
> > > > > > - 'DTLS for SCTP'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Reviewers needed.
> > > > > > Notes: Reviews needed to allow this to progress to LC.
> > > > > > Authors think this is about ready for WGLC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-congest (as INFO)
> > > > > > Milestone:  Feb 2010
> > > > > > - Request publication of 'Byte and Packet Congestion  
> > > > > > Notification'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome)
> > > > > > Notes: Comments received on rev 00, but no new revision.
> > > > > > Current version has expired Feb 2009.
> > > > > > Chairs need to know if author wishes to continue with a revised  
> > > > > > ID.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ================ Individual Drafts ================
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These drafts are ones that are being tracked, if you have a draft
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > you think is ready for WG comments please email the Chairs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > > * draft-tuexen-sctp-udp-encaps-02
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > >     AD help requested to know what with encapsulation drafts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-fairhurst-6man-tsvwg-udptt-02
> > > > > > - The UDP Tunnel Transport mode
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > > Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG and 6MAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-02.txt
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > > Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > > Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-lefaucheur-tsvwg-rsvp-multiple-preemption
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > > Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > > Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-adams-tsvwg-flow-signaling-identification-00
> > > > > > -  Flow State Aware signalling standardisation, and a proposal  
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > alerting nodes or end-systems on data related to a flow
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission,  Not discussed by this group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes: None.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-6man-udpzero-00
> > > > > > - IPv6 UDP Checksum Considerations
> > > > > > Status: Individual Submission,  Not discussed by this group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notes:
> > > > > > Linked to work in 6MAN, MBONED and LISP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------


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Brian Weis
Router/Switch Security Group, ARTG, Cisco Systems
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Email: bew at cisco.com