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Re: New ID-Checklist to replace ID-nits (fwd)



Hi Henrik and Harald,

One question concerning your boilerplate. Shouldn't your status of this memo section include the following paragraph?

"By submitting this Internet-Draft, I (we) accept the provisions of Section 3 of RFC 3667 (BCP 78)."

I am a bit confused that section 3 of RFC 3667 is for all drafts, why the text actually saying that they may be included is listed as "Notices and Rights Required in RFC Editor Contributions".

Shouldn't the above statement be always included except if the alternative one is included. Could I not otherwise claim that I am in fact not granting the IETF and ISOC the rights that are listed in section 3 of RFC 3667?

Clarification on this is highly appreciated.


Second, I thing that bullet 1 of section 2.2 of the ID-Checklist:

"1. Internet Draft boilerplate

It MUST contain boilerplate that permits publication as an RFC, see [RFC3667], Section 5.2."

Is rather insufficient and even erroneous for the job. I think one should have proper walk through here of the different elements needed in the "Status of this memo" section. To my understanding this consists of several different pieces:

A. The RFC 3668 IPR statement.

B. Possibly the RFC 3667 statements in Section 6.

C. Possibly limitation to copyright and publishing rights, according to section 5.2 of RFC 3667.

D. The "Internet draft" name disclaimer statement:

"Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts.

Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress"."

E. Pointer to current IDs and shadow directories:

>
>    The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at
>    http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt .
>
>    The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at
>    http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html .


Further I have also included in some draft included either of the following statements, to clearly indicate the document status. However I have now idea where I have got these from. However I think they are beneficial.


1. "This document is an individual submission to the IETF. Comments should be directed to the authors."

2. "This document is a submission of the IETF [#WG name] WG. Comments should be directed to the [#WG name] WG mailing list, ### at ietf.org."


How to build the previous "Status of this memo" section was previous indicated in the ID guideline:
http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt


I think a similar page is needed also for the new text, and the old one should be removed, because currently there are contradicting guidelines.

Cheers

Magnus


Henrik Levkowetz wrote:



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Draft Boilerplate conformant with RFC 3667 and 3668 ===================================================


DRAFT INTRO:

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Status of this Memo

   By submitting this Internet-Draft, I certify that any applicable
   patent or other IPR claims of which I am aware have been disclosed,
   and any of which I become aware will be disclosed, in accordance with
   RFC 3668.

   Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering
   Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups.  Note that
   other groups may also distribute working documents as
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   Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months
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   The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at
   http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt .

   The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at
   http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html .

   This Internet-Draft will expire on ....................

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