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Re: New ID-Checklist to replace ID-nits (fwd)




Hi Pekka,

In a sea of individual opinions, I'll add mine...

There is no checking of the boilerplate on I-D submission, so there is no hard date by which all I-Ds need to be updated to the new boilerplate.

However, the IESG will require the new boilerplate when documents are submitted for publication as RFCs.

Most WG I-Ds are intended for publication as RFCs eventually.

While it is true that changing or updating tools or templates may result in formatting glitches or errors, I don't see any advantage to delaying that transition to the very end of the process when glitches or errors may result in more wasted time and delay than earlier.

So, I would strongly suggest that WG chairs require that their editors update the boilerplate in all of their WG I-Ds sooner, rather than later. This also has the advantage of making the new IPR policies as visible and as clear as possible to the WG and other IETF contributors.

Just my $.02

Margaret


At 12:55 AM +0300 5/26/04, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Tue, 25 May 2004, Scott Bradner wrote:
 >  there is absolutely no need for a crash effort to update old
 > I-Ds to have the new boilerplate.

 agreed - but there is little reason to not change the boilerplate
 when an ID is updated for other reasons

Remember, many folks aren't hand-editing their documents with notepad :). Some may use Word templates (where changing this is probably possible). Quite a few use their more or less custom nroff (-based) scripts (at least for earlier work items), and updating those could be painful. Those who have used xml even for the earlier work are in a simple situation, but I'm not sure how feasible this is considering xml2rfc hasn't been around and deployed for all that many years yet.

I.e., what I'm saying is that changing the boilerplates might in many
cases also imply changing the document formatting tools in flight,
which might be considered undesirable just for this purpose.

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