RE: Copyright statements in drafts

[Pekka Savola <pekkas at netcore.fi>]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Paul Hoffman / VPNC wrote:
> At 4:25 PM -0400 6/2/04, Scott Bradner wrote:
> >I think that the copyrigt statement (not the "all rights reserved"
> >line Donald points out though) needs to be in all IDs
> >
> >my logic follows the requirement that the author give the IETF the
> >right to publish as an ID and thus must transfer the non exclusive limited
> >right to publish the ID - the IETF has a copyright (limited use etc) on
> >the actual ID as published even though the author retains all
> >other copyright rights - this also makes it clear that the ID
> >can not just be grabbed by someone (outside the IETF) for their
> >own (unatributed) use
> 
> As an archair lawyer, I would say that this makes absolutely no sense 
> at all. Copyright is atomic unless stated otherwise. If you say 
> "Copyright ISOC", you have no "other copyright rights".

FWIW, at least here you *cannot*, in any way AFAIK, transfer all of
your copyrights to another organization with that kind of clause.  
There are some basic rights (like being identified as the author) that
you'll *always* keep no matter what it says in the document.

And I think that's what's Scott was after.

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