RE: PROTO Process

["David Harrington" <ietfdbh at comcast.net>]

OK. 

I will observe that for both my chair and author experiences, Pasi was
the responsible AD, and he is a wonderul shepherd himself ;-)

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca at avaya.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:40 AM
> To: David Harrington; Jari Arkko; Russ Housley
> Cc: wgchairs at ietf.org
> Subject: RE: PROTO Process
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh at comcast.net] 
> 
> > 
> > I don't understand why the IESG thinks PROTO has problems. It 
> > seems to me to be working well. I think this is a desirable 
> > state of affairs.
> > 
> > David Harrington
> > dbharrington at comcast.net
> > ietfdbh at comcast.net
> > dharrington at huawei.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Let me answer shortly from the IESG member perspective. I need to
> mention however that I was not the one who raised the issue 
> originally.
> I have seldom seen the shepherds playing that role that you 
> mentioned of
> bridging between the WGs and the IESG members and filling in missing
> information. On the contrary, I have seen a number of 
> documents in limbo
> after the IESG entered some DISCUSSes and not making visible 
> progress to
> work the differences and issue revised ID's. When they did 
> make progress
> (late in some cases) it seemed to be more because of the AD's
sending
> reminders or in some cases the WG chairs (different that shepherds)
> intervening. 
> 
> Dan
>