Re: please double-check your charters

[Henrik Levkowetz <henrik at levkowetz.com>]

Hi Lars,

On 2009-10-14 21:27 Lars Eggert said the following:
> Hi,
> 
> some far DCCP. Moreover, the dated links on top of the tools page are  
> also confused.

The dated links simply reflect when there was a change in what was pulled
from the database.  I've been saving the www.ietf.org/ietf/1wg-charters.txt
file multiple times per day since 2006-07-03, and the individual WG charter
history is based on that.

As far as I can tell from the additional information you provide below, the
restore after the outage on 2008-02-05 reverted to the old 2006 'is chartered'
version.

> The more current versions (the ones having "is  
> maintaining" in the first line rather than "is chartered") are dated  
> from 2006...
> 
> (And I can't tell which one is the actual current one because after  
> the massive recharter from design to maintenance mode - reflected in  
> the wording change above and many other changes - I believe we did  
> some minor rechartering.)

Could it be that the minor rechartering changed only milestones?  I only
recently started including the milestone information in the snapshots you
see on http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dccp/charters.

If so, the charter text from 2006-12-29 should be the correct one (no
changes were seen during 2007) and hopefully the milestones from the
2009-10-14 snapshot are correct.  If the milestones are hopelessly wrong,
let me know, and I can produce all the changes since 2006-07-03, including
milestone and document information (which I excluded from the charters
history because it makes it much harder to find actual charter changes
when 90% of the changes occur in the lists of internet-drafts and RFCs.


Regards,

	Henrik


> 
> Lars
> 
> On 2009-10-15, at 2:46, Ben Campbell wrote:
> 
>> SIMPLE has the charter wrong on both the tools page and the "current
>> official charter" page.
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:15 AM, David Harrington wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I checked the syslog page and found that the tools.ietf.org charter
>>> link showed an older version than the
>>> http://www.ietf.org/dyn/wg/charter/syslog-charter page (which you get
>>> if you click on "current charter" from the tools.ietf.org page.
>>>
>>> Henrik is investigating.
>>>
>>> I think you probably need to pay attention to which page you check,
>>> and report which URL is out of date.
>>> On the other hand, they already know there is a problem, so sending
>>> lots of reports of the same problem won't be that helpful. So you
>>> might to check to see if you have th eproblem, and then give them a
>>> few days to fix it, and check again later.
>>>
>>> dbh
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wgchairs-bounces at ietf.org
>>>> [mailto:wgchairs-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ben Campbell
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:37 AM
>>>> To: Lars Eggert
>>>> Cc: Working Group Chairs
>>>> Subject: Re: please double-check your charters
>>>>
>>>> SIMPLE is clearly hosed. How do we go about fixing it?
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Lars Eggert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> we just found another case of a WG (DCCP) where the charter
>>>> text was
>>>>> rolled back to some (much) earlier version during the IETF
>>>> web site
>>>>> migration. I suggest that you take a quick look at your
>>>> charters to
>>>>> double-check that they say what they should be saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lars
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: The milestones were OK, it was the actual charter text
>>>> that was
>>>>> outdated.
>>>>
>