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I’m with you that the first two are probably
sidebars, although the waiting room may not be; depends on exactly what the
wait room is. If you get to it with a generic wait room URI, then you
select a conference (somehow) and then you are placed in the conference, then
it’s move-between-conferences. If you get to it with the real
conference URI, but you are “seated” in the wait room for some
reason, then it’s a sidebar. I am also a bit skeptical of
move-between-conferences. Is this not a “Refer/Replaces”
operation; changing the URI of the conference? If it’s not, then
you have the weird situation where the call state is to one conference, with a
URI, but you are actually in another conference, with a different URI. If,
for some reason, the UAC decided it needed to create a new dialog, it’s
not with the same URI as the original. That sounds pretty weird to me. Brian From: Sean Olson
[mailto:Sean.Olson at microsoft.com] I would not implement the first as a
separate conference, but that is something that we could discuss more when we
define the sidebar operations. I can see the value of defining a move user
between conferences operation, though I'm a bit skeptical of the architecture
to enable such an operation. I guess I'd like to see a high level call flow for
how this would work. From: Even,
Roni [mailto:roni.even at polycom.co.il] Sean, Sidebar is a child of a conference which
is not the case here. For the first case there is no conference yet. I agree
that the second can be based on sidebar. I think that I agree with Geir that there
is a need to move participants between conferences and not only from a
conference to side bar and back Roni From: Sean Olson
[mailto:Sean.Olson at microsoft.com] I don't see why those two use cases could
not be handled by a sidebar. From: Geir Arne
Sandbakken [mailto:geir.sandbakken at tandberg.net] Moving users between sidebars has been proposed, but it
would be nice to extend this for moving users between conferences as well.
Having a “move” verb would be preferable, as a “delete
user” followed by “add user” can have the side effect of
disconnecting the user from the conference. Two use cases: 1. Waiting room: You call a waiting room where someone
controls when you can join a specific conference. 2. Help service: An administrator can move a user to
another conference to help out with typical media problems, debugging or other
issues. Then move the user back when it has been resolved. Geir Arne |
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