RE: [XCON] Moving users between conferences
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RE: [XCON] Moving users between conferences



I’m with you that the first two are probably sidebars, although the waiting room may not be; depends on exactly what the wait room is.  If you get to it with a generic wait room URI, then you select a conference (somehow) and then you are placed in the conference, then it’s move-between-conferences.  If you get to it with the real conference URI, but you are “seated” in the wait room for some reason, then it’s a sidebar.

 

I am also a bit skeptical of move-between-conferences.  Is this not a “Refer/Replaces” operation; changing the URI of the conference?  If it’s not, then you have the weird situation where the call state is to one conference, with a URI, but you are actually in another conference, with a different URI.  If, for some reason, the UAC decided it needed to create a new dialog, it’s not with the same URI as the original.  That sounds pretty weird to me.

 

Brian

 


From: Sean Olson [mailto:Sean.Olson at microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 AM
To: Even, Roni; Geir Arne Sandbakken; XCON-IETF
Subject: RE: [XCON] Moving users between conferences

 

I would not implement the first as a separate conference, but that is something that we could discuss more when we define the sidebar operations. I can see the value of defining a move user between conferences operation, though I'm a bit skeptical of the architecture to enable such an operation. I guess I'd like to see a high level call flow for how this would work.

 


From: Even, Roni [mailto:roni.even at polycom.co.il]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 7:24 AM
To: Sean Olson; Geir Arne Sandbakken; XCON-IETF
Subject: RE: [XCON] Moving users between conferences

Sean,

Sidebar is a child of a conference which is not the case here. For the first case there is no conference yet. I agree that the second can be based on sidebar.

I think that I agree with Geir that there is a need to move participants between conferences and not only from a conference to side bar and back

Roni

 


From: Sean Olson [mailto:Sean.Olson at microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:17 PM
To: Geir Arne Sandbakken; XCON-IETF
Subject: RE: [XCON] Moving users between conferences

 

I don't see why those two use cases could not be handled by a sidebar.

 


From: Geir Arne Sandbakken [mailto:geir.sandbakken at tandberg.net]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:30 AM
To: XCON-IETF
Subject: [XCON] Moving users between conferences

Moving users between sidebars has been proposed, but it would be nice to extend this for moving users between conferences as well.  Having a “move” verb would be preferable, as a “delete user” followed by “add user” can have the side effect of disconnecting the user from the conference.

 

Two use cases:

1. Waiting room:  You call a waiting room where someone controls when you can join a specific conference. 

2. Help service:  An administrator can move a user to another conference to help out with typical media problems, debugging or other issues.  Then move the user back when it has been resolved.

 

Geir Arne

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