Re: [XCON] Cloning: Additional data in the data model

["Oscar Novo" <oscar.novo at ericsson.com>]

Hi,

IMO that's covered using 'cascaded-focus'. The definition of 'cascaded-focus' in RFC4575 states:

"This element contains a conference URI (different from the main conference URI) for users that are connected to the main conference as a result of focus cascading. 

So, with the 'sidebars-by-ref' you can browse from the parent to the child and with 'cascaded-focus' from the child to the parent.

Oscar

-----Original Message-----
From: spromano at unina.it [mailto:spromano at unina.it] 
Sent: 2. helmikuuta 2009 11:11
To: Oscar Novo
Cc: xcon at ietf.org
Subject: RE: [XCON] Cloning: Additional data in the data model

Hi Oscar,

what I was suggesting is to add some means to detect whether a certain conference is a child of a parent conference; similarly, with sidebars, I would like to know if a certain conference object actually represents a sidebar of another conference. The two mechanisms you mention ('cascaded-focus' and 'sidebars-by-ref') allow you to "browse"  
conference objects in exactly the opposite direction. What is your feeling about that?

Cheers,

Simon

Quoting Oscar Novo <oscar.novo at ericsson.com>:

> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> Regarding the new attributes you proposed. I might be wrong but I   
> think the father/son relationship is already covered with the   
> 'cascaded-focus' element and the conference/sidebar relationship is   
> covered with the 'sidebars-by-ref'. What do you think about that?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Oscar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spromano at unina.it [mailto:spromano at unina.it]
> Sent: 30. tammikuuta 2009 20:16
> To: Oscar Novo
> Cc: xcon at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [XCON] Cloning: Additional data in the data model
>
> Hi Oscar,
>
> sorry for the late reply. IMHO, we might need in the data model:
>
> 1. information about the father/son relationship. This might be an   
> attribute, e.g.:
>
> <xs:attribute name="fatherEntity" type="xs:anyURI" use="optional"/>
>
> 2. information about the conference/sidebar relationship, e.g.:
>
> <xs:attribute name="sidebarOf" type="xs:anyURI" use="optional"/>.
>
> As to the "parent enforceable" relationship, I would leave it   
> outside of the data model.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon
>
>
> Quoting Oscar Novo <oscar.novo at ericsson.com>:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> In IETF-73 has been a proposal to expand the data model to support 
>> the cloning method defined in the framework. At the moment, the data 
>> model supports the cloning method though the 'cascaded-focus' element 
>> which contains a 'parent' conference URI but it might be needed to 
>> add few more elements to be align with CCMP.
>>
>> Some elements that could be added are:
>>
>> - An element that contains all the 'non-independent' children 
>> conferences
>> - A policy attribute/element that indicates the "parent enforceable"
>> of every element. However, it would make more sense to add it in a 
>> draft that discusses conference policies.
>>
>> It would be nice to know the opinion of the WG whether we want to 
>> support entirely this property or not.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Oscar
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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