Re: [XCON] BFCP over UDP
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Re: [XCON] BFCP over UDP



Gonzalo,

The UDP usage draft does utilize transaction ids more and has a few extra messages to get reliable delivery. The changes are still very minor to the protocol itself and our implementation of it. IMHO having a single way of operating the protocol is better than having two different modes of operation. Also as mentioned in San Francisco it makes any intermediaries easier to implement only having to forward messages independent of transport. Can we do a bis?

Geir Arne

Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
Hi,

the following (expired) draft was presented in the XCON session in San Francisco:

http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-sandbakken-xcon-bfcp-udp-00.txt

The agreement was that given the problems TCP has with NATs (the P2PSIP WG is currently discussing the same issue) it would be a good idea to define a more NAT-friendly transport for BFCP. The proposal was to simply use UDP (this is what existing deployments do).

Since BFCP messages can be rather long, we would need an applicability statement saying which types of messages cannot be used over UDP.

In order to specify the new UDP-based transport we can either put together a new draft or revise the BFCP specification. I got the action point to list the things that could be fixed in a potential revised BFCP spec. These are the contents of my notes. Of course, if someone knows of more issues, please let us know:

o When a user performs a third-party floor request the beneficiary of the floor is not informed when the floor is granted. This may not be a problem because endpoints using third-party floor requests probably have different means to get in synch but we may want to add some text about this.

o We do not have errors for an unsupported version of the protocol or for wrong message length. We do not have a general error either.

o When we get more experience on queue management from real deployments, it would be nice to explaining it further in the spec.

o UserStatus

UserStatus =   (COMMON-HEADER)
                  [BENEFICIARY-INFORMATION]
                1*(FLOOR-REQUEST-INFORMATION) -> remove the 1
                 *[EXTENSION-ATTRIBUTE]

o A message may need to be longer than the maximum message length supported by the protocol

o A rather small number of typos


As you can see, at this point there are not so many things to fix... so, the simplest way forward may be to simply specify a new UDP-based transport for BFCP. In any case, I would like to get feedback from folks operating BFCP deployments.

A different alternative (the one the P2PSIP WG is looking at) would be to either use a UDP encapsulation for TCP or to specify a new transport protocol... but these alternatives may be more complex than just using UDP.

Comments?

Thanks,

Gonzalo


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