[xmpp] Fwd: Use of namespace in RFC 3920

[Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard at gmail.com>]

Aaargh, sorry! Once again not to the list. I am really not used to
mailing list, sorry for this.


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From: Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard at gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/24
Subject: Re: [xmpp] Use of namespace in RFC 3920
To: Curtis King <cking at mumbo.ca>


Hi,

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Curtis King <cking at mumbo.ca> wrote:
>
> What does this all gain us? I think there needs to-be a real benefit to
> making such a change and I don't see one. Only a lot of potential pain.
> IMHO, we should be tightening the scope of XML which can be sent not
> loosening it.
>

That's indeed what I am doing. Right now XMPP is not really following
XML rules. It made new ones, and make it more difficult.
Let's make the example from my experience. I am writing currently an
XMPP library, and I wrote also an XML library. My XML library, like
most of the others I have tried (the one which deals well with XML and
XML namespace RFC, at least), does expand the name of XML elements
into qualified names. So honestly it doesn't care how it has been
expanded, not does XML by definition. The problem is that the XMPP RFC
does. And this is problematic and a lot of pain for me.

If I want to really do like the XMPP RFC proposes, I should modify my
XML parser with surcharge about where a namespace has been declared or
set as default. This is what is lot of pain, according to me.
This is the current XMPP RFC which tightens XML and make its use
painful, not the opposite.
Bye.

Jehan