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Re: [xmpp] [Fwd: Re: [TLS] TLS or HTTP issue?]



2009/11/12 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>:
> FYI from the TLS list.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS or HTTP issue?
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:34:49 -0800
> From: Chris Newman <Chris.Newman at Sun.COM>
> To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>,        Nikos
> Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav at gnutls.org>
> CC: Eric Rescorla <ekr at rtfm.com>, tls at ietf.org
> References: <73843DF9-EFCB-4B8D-913E-FE2235E5BDD3 at rtfm.com>
> <4AF33D07.7040100 at gnutls.org> <4AF455DF.5040106 at stpeter.im>
>
> It is likely XMPP is vulnerable.  IMAP and SMTP are vulnerable.  The only
> application protocol I've studied that I believe resists the vulnerability
> is POP3+STLS (even pops may be vulnerable).
>
> I know of two ways to leverage the TLS re-negotiation vulnerability to
> attack applications:
>

>
> 2. Having one authorized and authenticated TLS session decrypt data from a
> different TLS session.  This attack is most severe for SMTP+STARTTLS+BDAT
> (since SMTP relays typically treat all senders as authenticated as long as
> the recipient is in the local domain), but impacts most application
> protocols that have a command to "send", "post", "put", "set an attribute"
> or perform any write operation that can subsequently be read back.  In the
> case of IMAP, this can be used by one authorized IMAP user (someone with an
> account on the IMAP server) to potentially steal the login password of
> another IMAP user on the same server (with some IMAP client behavior
> caveats).
>
> It is likely that XMPP is vulnerable to attack #2.
>

I'm curious... are there any references to this form of attack? I've
failed to find any mention of it so far. Do I need to join another
mailing list? :)

Matthew

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