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[15:43:57] <gorryf> Greetings
[15:44:06] <arjuna_sai> greetings :)
[15:45:24] <gorryf> We are currently waiting for Tom to arrive as a Chair and for the HUGE lunch queue to finish --- could be an issue for the first meeting after lunch today (I believe the Secretariat are working on ideas for Lunch tomorrow)
[15:46:05] <arjuna_sai> so the secretariat is working on the menu? :)
[15:46:47] <gorryf> On the number of "servers" - or more specifically queues...
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[15:47:29] <gorryf> We should have all slides uploaded - except for Tom Phelan, who has yet to arrive at the meeting from the airport.
[16:02:22] <ian.mcdonald> Hello there. I'm wondering if now is about the start time as I'm not hearing anything from audio stream
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[16:02:59] <arjuna_sai> I can hear the voice - but there is disturbance
[16:03:03] <ian.mcdonald> Did here that announcement but very low volume and high background noise
[16:03:13] <gorryf> Start will be 5 minutes late (13:05 PST)
[16:05:40] <lars> is the audio better now?
[16:05:43] <ian.mcdonald> no
[16:05:47] <arjuna_sai> nope
[16:06:05] <arjuna_sai> very faint with high background noise
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[16:06:18] <arjuna_sai> we still get high background noise
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[16:06:32] <lars> i'll try to get someone from the av team
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[16:08:12] <ian.mcdonald> we can't hear well enough in the jabber room to scribe
[16:09:43] <csp> Gorry is reviewing milestones
[16:09:50] <ian.mcdonald> is the microphone movable so that it can manually be moved nearer to the speaker? (Or the speaker move closer to the microphone)
[16:10:17] <lars> we are trying to move gorry closer to the mike
[16:10:36] <ian.mcdonald> thats a bit better
[16:10:42] <lars> ok
[16:11:18] <lars> let us know if sally is better, she will use the wireless mike
[16:11:25] <ian.mcdonald> ok
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[16:11:57] <gorryf> Sally on TFRC-SP
[16:12:40] <ian.mcdonald> that is better than other mic
[16:12:50] <ian.mcdonald> still very quiet and large background noise but better
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[16:18:18] <lars> i filed a ticket with the noc about the audio. i hope someone from the team will show up soon
[16:18:49] <ian.mcdonald> thanks
[16:20:04] <lars> someone from the noc is here now, let me know if things get better/worse
[16:20:12] <lars> he is playing with the knobs
[16:20:19] <arjuna_sai> improving...
[16:20:25] <lars> he is walking away
[16:21:32] <gorryf> Questions on TFRC-SP?
[16:24:03] <lars> skipping dtls for now (tom not here yet)
[16:24:07] <lars> going to 3448bis
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[16:29:59] <arjuna_sai> The calculation of X_inst = W_init/R needs to be checked. I had suggested using packet size "s" instead of MSS to calculate W_init. Sally said she wuld do..
[16:30:01] <ian.mcdonald> CCID3 for Linux is implemented but not audited against RFC
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[16:30:29] <ian.mcdonald> The performance does match TFRC (TCP throughput equation) though which is good :-)
[16:31:33] <gorryf> Tom on DTLS
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[16:45:16] <arjuna_sai> but the problem happens when the traffic is very bursty sending at 1 packet every 2 RTTs - so in this case can we still maintain 8 packets/RTT
[16:45:17] <arjuna_sai> ?
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[16:45:49] <csp> was that a question for sally?
[16:46:02] <arjuna_sai> yes
[16:46:52] <arjuna_sai> can the minimum sending rate be 8 packets/RTT?
[16:47:35] <arjuna_sai> ok
[16:47:38] <arjuna_sai> yes
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[16:49:37] <gorryf> CSP on RTP/DCCP
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[16:55:54] <gorryf> Sally on CCID4
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[17:09:12] <gorryf> CCID2 questions (sent to list)
[17:09:21] <lars> i haven't gotten that email?
[17:09:31] <gorryf> on the list today
[17:09:38] <lars> ah
[17:12:59] <arjuna_sai> it wuld be interesting to see how CCID2 works with bursty traffic since CCID 3's sending rate is really not smooth with bursty traffic :)
[17:18:35] <ian.mcdonald> linux has been tested with kane bsd
[17:18:48] <ian.mcdonald> we tested with nishada san from sony
[17:18:58] <ian.mcdonald> and we fixed a few interoperability issues around that
[17:20:09] <ian.mcdonald> lars: I have done a lot of work on loss intervals/feedback of rate recently
[17:20:51] <ian.mcdonald> lars: ucl contributed to linux code in the end
[17:21:02] <ian.mcdonald> lars: ucl largely fixed up ccid2
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[17:45:35] <csp> that's all folks...
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