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[16:33:56] <ggm> anyone in room willing to do some jabber trivia? don't need full minutes, but some heads-up would help.
[16:35:02] <dmalas> Otmar is reviewing: draft-ietf-enum-combined
[16:35:21] <ggm> bewdy. ta
[16:35:45] <terry> yes, many thanks
[16:35:48] <dmalas> np
[16:36:09] <dmalas> I'll type what I can...but I'm noooo jabber scribe. ;)
[16:36:16] <terry> :-)
[16:36:45] <dmalas> <slide 4>
[16:37:02] <bhoeneis> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/slides/enum-2.ppt
[16:37:43] <dmalas> <slide 5>
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[16:46:55] <terry> still discussing prague?? (pre-ietf68 and dnsext)
[16:47:08] <dmalas> <slide 9>
[16:47:31] <terry> ta
[16:47:32] <dmalas> sorry...was assuming you could hear the change in topics...I will keep this up from now on....
[16:47:41] <dmalas> <slide 10>
[16:49:02] <terry> I'm in a place that I can't listen
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[16:49:47] <dmalas> <slide 11>
[16:49:53] <dmalas> ok
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[16:50:19] <dmalas> 12
[16:50:20] <terry> I;ll be most interested in the 'hum' results
[16:50:29] <dmalas> Let me know if you have questions...
[16:52:52] <dmalas> Jon - I think this is the right choice this wg should be making. No matter what decision is made, having the right perspective is valuable.
[16:53:17] <dmalas> Richard Statsny - Second solution is simpler...better.
[16:54:06] <dmalas> Rohan Mahy - Curious about the DNAME stuff...fixed branch is fine...makes it simpler....Is the long-term solution going to come to pass....or is the short-term solution just fine.
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[16:55:44] <dmalas> Richard S. - the DNAME problem is temporary.
[16:55:57] <dmalas> Jim - Let's go for something quick and simple to get this thing out the door.
[16:57:10] <dmalas> Shockey - The problem is more political and less to do with underlining technology.
[16:57:24] <dmalas> <slide 14> ...btw
[16:58:14] <dmalas> Jon P. - Are there some DNS people here qualified to know if DNAME symantics are appropriate for this?
[16:58:33] <dmalas> Referencing - Slide 10 at bottom.
[16:58:48] <dmalas> Jon P. - From what I read it looks to be about the right match.
[16:59:13] <avri> semantics may be right, but does it work?
[17:00:38] <dmalas> Unknown - It should work.
[17:01:04] <dmalas> Shockey - This would occur for ALL queries.
[17:01:21] <dmalas> Stasny - if this doesn't work...not sure what DNAME is for.
[17:01:32] <dmalas> Jim R - I think it should work...
[17:02:00] <dmalas> ...should be fine in the short-term.
[17:03:16] <agallant> who is speaking?
[17:03:21] <dmalas> Otmar
[17:03:29] <dmalas> it must be specified in the draft...
[17:05:08] <dmalas> sorry...couldn't keep up with last dialog.
[17:05:37] <dmalas> Otmar - slide 15
[17:05:47] <agallant> thank you!
[17:06:25] <bhoeneis> @agallant: Lets see how long the name stating lasts...;-)
[17:06:33] <dmalas> Shockey - Want to get a sense of room shall we keep EBL draft or go to plan 'B'?
[17:06:54] <dmalas> Wish to keep drafts in current state - <no hums>
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[17:07:17] <dmalas> Wish Otmar et. al. change the draft according to specifications indicated here - <many hums>
[17:07:20] <dmalas> Hums have it.
[17:07:30] <terry> ta
[17:08:15] <dmalas> Rohan Mahy - slide 13 - syntax thing...not something for us to decide.
[17:08:18] <dmalas> who cares
[17:08:23] <dmalas> Shockey - agreed
[17:08:39] <dmalas> otmar - a single small 'i' can be overlooked...
[17:08:55] <dmalas> All in favor of using the 'i' as a separator - hum...
[17:09:06] <dmalas> even for/agains
[17:09:11] <dmalas> ...going back to list.
[17:09:23] <dmalas> Shockey - Prefer to deal with it on the list.
[17:09:37] <dmalas> Otmar is done...
[17:10:28] <dmalas> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/slides/enum-4.pdf
[17:10:38] <dmalas> Bernie
[17:10:55] <dmalas> Hoeneisen
[17:10:59] <dmalas> slide 2
[17:11:54] <dmalas> slide 3
[17:12:07] <dmalas> "List of Open...
[17:13:00] <dmalas> Alex is now talking...slide 4
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[17:13:54] <dmalas> slide 5
[17:15:34] <dmalas> (Jon Peterson) I think there are some protocol schemes to contend with.
[17:16:02] <dmalas> (Alex M) Is only one URI sub-type to be defined?
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[17:16:36] <dmalas> slide 6
[17:18:10] <dmalas> slide 7
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[17:18:28] <dmalas> <"Data Format" ...>
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[17:18:58] <dmalas> Slide 8
[17:19:22] <dmalas> (Jon Peterson) I wanted to say that I like it.
[17:19:29] <dmalas> ...think they are the right categories
[17:20:10] <dmalas> It's a tough road...won't be easy...think it might get worse.
[17:20:16] <dmalas> ...but we should still do it.
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[17:21:13] <dmalas> slide "Registration process"
[17:21:34] <dmalas> Bernie is now speaking
[17:22:29] <dmalas> In favor of a separate document
[17:22:43] <dmalas> (Richard Shockey) Preference we do NOT separate the process.
[17:23:19] <dmalas> ...keeping it separate can create other issues...expedite manner by keeping it in single document.
[17:24:03] <dmalas> (Mark) IANA's preference as well.
[17:24:44] <dmalas> ....processes exist to move future drafts through w/o working group.
[17:27:03] <dmalas> (Jason Livingood) Minor clarifying questions...do you want to include only what happens in the absence of a wg or also what occurs while the wg exists.
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[17:28:12] <dmalas> (Reid) Devils advocate - I want to have a separate document for process...what happens if you want to change the process later on...(shockey)...change the RFC....(Reed) without working group?
[17:28:44] <dmalas> (Jon Peterson) We should institute policy requiring expert review...
[17:29:10] <dmalas> ...expectation "guideline" document to set standard.
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[17:36:07] <dmalas> <slide "Possible process (rough draft)"
[17:37:11] <dmalas> Are there any questions on the process itself?
[17:37:19] <dmalas> next slide
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[17:38:48] <dmalas> (otmar) it si really important to have someone in charge of the process.
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[17:39:18] <dmalas> (Shockey) preference it looks like an expert review process...then sent to IESG for final approval.
[17:39:40] <dmalas> (otmar) Timer should be implemented for people who do not respond by a certain time.
[17:40:07] <dmalas> Comments on prev slide...
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