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1. Introduction, document status, Rajeev 5 minutes

2. NSF's FIND, Allison Mankin, 20 minutes.

Rajeev -- seems like the approach is like to build new models, can you give us an idea on where we are?
Allison -- the base mechanisms are being defined
Subir -- do we need to participate into the Geni program or it is open to everyone?
Allison -- it is quite open, you will be able to run the Geni experiments, 
this is still unclear how the Geni experiments are going to work

3. Multicast Mobility in MIPv6: Problem Statement and Brief Survey, Thomas Schmidt, 25 minutes
draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-00.txt

Question were moved to the mailing list.

4. CN-targetted Location Privacy, Kilian Weninger, 15 minutes.
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mip6/draft-weniger-mobopts-mip6-cnlocpriv-02.txt


Suresh -- not clear from the draft that you are increasing the BU signaling by 50%,
you need to do this for every CN, you do not perform the discovery of the
HA, these issues are not clear

Kilian -- very good comments, will address this

Suresh -- what happens when you have HO? if you move the HA is not
anymore in the path (the optimized HA), how do you know if the HA is
reachable after you move?

Kilian --  is a standard HA, it will be always reachable

Suresh -- the trust model is different

Kilian -- it is not a realistic scenario to have more 10 CNs

Ashustosh -- did you do some experiments with SIP?
Kilian -- No, not yet

Raj -- this is one way of resolving loc privacy, but the trust model
relation has to be analyzed, also what happens if the CN moves? we
need to understand if the solution is applicable

Vogt -- when the CN is mobile you could re-discover a better HAOR, it
could be moved as the CN moves, that does not need to happen at the same
time, but it could. You give the MN a new address in the HAOR, how the
packets are routed back to the MN?

Vijay -- bootstrapping of the HAOR is not the same as HA bootstrapping

Kilian -- I agree but we do not say this

Vijay -- applicability is a major concern, it has very limited applicability

5. A Framework of Media-independent Pre-Authentication
(MPA) for Inter-domain Handover Optimization, Yoshihiro Ohba, 25 minutes

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ohba-mobopts-mpa-framework-05.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ohba-mobopts-mpa-implementation-04.txt

Yoshi -- MPA framework for inter domain
Vogt -- good work, 802.21 sounds like a good way forward

6. On the performance trends and trade-offs of MIH L3 transport, Nada
Golmie, 30 minutes

Gorry -- what do you mean by RTO increasing? Is a standard TCP?
Nada -- yes, we used the maximum values

JC -- clarification on the 802.21 terminology

Rajeev --  do you have traffic in the background?

Nada -- yes

7. Motivation for Context Aware Mobility, Eranga Perera, 30 minutes,
draft-perera-mobopts-motivation-CAM-00.txt

Gorry -- hybrid decision engine would be ok

Marco -- keep separate mobility management and context information, they are orthogonal problems

Greg -- what sort of interaction do you see between MIH commands and the context?

Ashutosh -- it is complete separate the issues of mobility management and context?

Raj -- there is not doubt that context is useful