AppArea meeting minutes

July 23, 2007

Jabber minutes: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/ietf-logs/apparea/2007-07-23.html

- Request for people to attend APM BoF

- Thank-you to all App area reviewers

- IDN Office hours announcement (John Klensin)

- Preview of HTTP Bis BoF (Lisa Dusseault)
  BOF is to discuss (a) How much revamp of HTTP doc should be, and (b) what to do about authentication.

- Preview of VCardDav BoF 
  Revving vCard base spec and looking at Cyrus's CardDAV protocol.  Looking at which documents might need revising, whether it makes sense to have a CardDAV protocol, and how this overlaps with CalConnect folks.

- Preview of BIFF BoF
  Looking at lightweight notifications from mail store through presence system (i.e., XMPP or SIP) to a client.  Looking to keep this very narrowly scoped.  Trying to use the term "state change notifications" instead of "notifications", since the latter is very general/confusing.  Definitely *not* trying to do IMAP over SIP.

- 2821/2822 are being discussed on ietf-smtp@imc.org and ietf-822@imc.org.

- W3C Workshop coming up Sept 25/26: Canonical XML

- WG meetings:
  LEMONADE - Lots of interesting complicated IMAP extensions. Go read before they meet this afternoon.
  SIEVE - More extensions, as usual.
  EAI - Core specs being finished up. Downgrade is needing more review.
  CALSIFY - Marching through issues.

- Application Configuration discussion
  Overall: Is there anyway to successfully do out-of-band app config? XMPP, e.g., does it in-band.  Is it getting easier to do out-of-band? Are there framework pieces missing?
  Simo Veikkolainen slides (just an announcement of this work; still talking to SIP folks about how this interacts with them):  draft-veikkolainen-sipping-app-config-00.  Config of app settings (especially little devices) is hard.  How does the device find the config server?  SIP UA Config Framework is going on in SIP draft-ietf-sipping-config-framework.  Discovery could be U-NAPTR or SRV query.  Retrieving configuration information could be ACAP, SIP-UA-Config, or could use simple HTTP-based mechanism.

- Discussion of MIME multiparts in SIP. Something to go look at.