IETF 71 RMT WG Minutes Monday, 10 March 2008 ====================================== 1) Agenda Bashing The agenda was accepted without comment 2) WG Progress 30 min - WG Chairs & Document Editors The WG Chairs presented the following document status and there was discussion on each of these documents. Recent RFCs Publication Requested: - draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-ldpc-06 (Publication Approved) - draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-rs-05 (In RFC Ed Queue) - draft-ietf-rmt-bb-norm-revised-03 (Submitted) Updated Documents - draft-rmt-pi-norm-revised-06 (Ready for Publication) This document is pending publication submission by the WG Chairs. - draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-basic-schemes-revised-04 (WG Last Call) The document passed WG Last Call without comment and will be submitted for publication - draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lct-revised-06 (WG Last Call) - draft-ietf-rmt-sec-discussion-01 - draft-roca-rmt-newfcast-01 - draft-roca-rmt-simple-auth-for-alc-norm-01 3) "RMT Security Issues" Brian Adamson provided an update on the minor changes to the "draft-ietf-rmt-sec-discussion-01" document. ACTION ITEM: Brian Adamson and Vincent Roca volunteered to provide a fully completed update to this document for the next IETF with a planned agenda item to make a working group decision on the document's future. Additional input was welcomed. Vincent Roca provided information on the following documents: - draft-roca-rmt-simple-auth-for-alc-norm-01 ACTION ITEM: WG Chairs will email a request to the WG Mailing List asking for consensus to make this a working group document. Vincent Roca also provided information on updates to the MSEC TESLA document. 4) "RMT for Low-cost satellite Internet infrastructure to support education in remote and developing regions" Thomas Jacobson presented a discussion on efforts including the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) and other initiatives to provide remote communities world-wide with additional computer (and potentially network) based educational and information resources. The challenges to provide low cost, maintainable access to Internet was described and the potential of using RMT techniques via satellite data communications to help provide better information availability was presented. 5) "FCAST Discussion" Vincent Roca presented an overview of issues to support bringing the FCAST approach into the RMT WG as a work item. ACTION ITEM: Vincent Roca (and volunteers) will provide an updated FCAST draft for working group consideration for IETF72. 6) "Open Discussion" An open discussion was initiated by Thomas Jacobson to discuss why multicast has not been more prevalently deployed and what might be done to help promote more widespread availability of IP multicast services. Ran Atkinson described some experience with former ISPs issues where ASM multicast had been deployed and resulted in an disproportianal amount of ISP bandwidth being consumed by a small number of users (e.g. gamers). Some discussion SSM as a possible chance for increased multicast deployment was given. Some discussion around the opportunities for educational or other purposes to develop a project (perhaps as a sort of "new and improved MBONE") as a pilot for multicast deployment was held. One point was that such an effort might try to engage more than just the research community to help identify and pursue solutions to problems that complicate easy deployment, use, and maintenance of multicast routing domains.