RTGWG Minutes IETF-72, Dublin, Ireland, July 29, 2008, 0900-1130 Scribe: Alex Zinin Dimitri; presented a draft on requirements for multicast FRR. Dino: work done at cisco, customer reqs are there diff components, PIM hello should leave away, doesn't affect conv ppl maybe happy with unicast convergence (i.e. FRR), but still may have to do mcast, have solutions for this decoupling mcast and unicast convergence is preferred RP changes are heavy will present Tony: there's interest in this work Dave: analyse topologies better Louse/BT: a note on operational aspects ?/cisco: presenting at MBONED? maybe a good place to collect ops requirements Alex: believe interest is there. not clear why the doc talks about m2mp lsp's? Alex: sense of the room for interest: 70% --clear consensus in the room sense of the room for the doc as the WG doc: 10 ppl, but only 3 read the doc Michael: presented his BGP session security reqs draft Alex: Purpose of the doc? collection of things good to have from the ops point of view? requirements to BGP implementations? Guidelines for future work? MUST/SHOULD/MAY's: not clear what they mean here. Discussion around the above. Concluded that work is useful and shouldn't be droped, however, should make a decision whether these are guidelines for deployments, for protocol implementers, or for future standards work. This needs to be cleaned up before the doc can progress.