Minutes IETF-73 16ng 
November 18, 2008
By: Gabriel Montenegro

Agenda
Update: 
	IP over Ethernet over 802.16
	IPv4 over IEEE 802.16 IP CS
          
Agenda bashing, WG status, note takers
          Chairs - 5 min
          
IP transmission over Ethernet CS (25 mins)              Sangjin Jeong
          Goal: Review addressed AD comments
          http://tools.ietf.org/wg/16ng/draft-ietf-16ng-ip-over-ethernet-over-802-dot-16/
          To be resubmitted soon.
structural modifications 
host awareness of 802.16 (made it agnostic)
          
modified the doc per the TOC presented in Dublin
•	ethernet model over .16
•	mandatory requirements in section 6
•	section 7: operational enhancements (now separately dealt with)
•	public access network considerations
•	architectural considerations now in annexes
		multicast CIDs
		bridging architectures
 
aligned with 802.16REV2 (expected to be approved in feb 09)proceedings@ietf.org 
•	streamlined ETH subtypes
•	also including GPCS in the I-D
 
Distinction between "host" and "SS" (host is attached to SS)
 
RFC4541 instead of RFC4605
•	even though 4541 is not standards track
 
Ready to go back to Jari?
 
Jari: I still don't see that you've closed the loop with DSL Forum and folks.
Talk to Mark
Sangjin: we never got a review from Mark Townsley
Jari: Well, then ping him and other people again.
 
Note: Folks to ping about DSL considerations are Mark Townsley and Frank Xia
 
Daniel: any objection to include GPCS?
 
Raj: Not considered even in profiles for WiMAX
But we do more than WiMAX
 
Sangjin: not mandatory text on GPCS
 
Raj: will provide some feedback on the GPCS text
 
IP transmission over IPv4CS (25 mins)
          Goal: Last look before IESG.
          http://tools.ietf.org/wg/16ng/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv4-over-802-dot-16-ipcs/
Gabriel: presentation to IPv4CS document, background, changes from the previous version.
Major change is MTU as 1500, not 1400 and 1400 MTU is moved to appendix section

 
Raj: why MTU issues came up ?
Gabriel: discussion at Dublin meeting, and get back with 1500
 
Gabriel: 1400 MTU is an operational decision in WiMAX
 proceedings@ietf.org 
Gabriel: sent a request for MTU review to NWG, but no feedback yet
 
Jari: official request to WiMAX ?
Gabriel: sent a mail to NWG
Alper: Discussed in WiMAX and give us more information later. Can volunteer to obtain more information.
 
Gabriel: Will forward to the AD for review in one week, so please ask for feedback within one week.
 
Note: before the end of the meeting, Alper had sent email to NWG asking for feedback.