Minutes interim-1992-iesg-22 1992-09-21 16:00
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    Minutes of the IESG Teleconference
    September 21st, 1992

    Reported by: Steve Coya

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.

    iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us

    Attendees:

    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Hobby, Russ / UC-Davis
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet

    Regrets

    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI

    1) Following a warm and neighborly greeting, it was decided that the
    minutes of September 10 and 14 are to be edited and resubmitted to IESG
    for review.

    2) TCP/IP Header Compression: Dave Borman reported that he had received
    responses to his queries, and that he is reviewing them.

    3) SNMP over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX were approved
    for recommendation to the IAB as proposed standards.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send recommendation to the IAB to publish the SNMP
    over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX documents as Proposed
    Standards.

    4. The BGP default route document has been edited, submitted and
    announced as an Internet Draft, and is ready to move forward.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a LAST CALL for BGP default Route to the ietf
    announcement list.

    5. IDENT

    Some edits are being made to the document. One the new version is
    received, a second last call will be issued. Two weeks following that,
    it will be recommended to the IAB that IDENT be accepted as a Proposed
    Standard.

    Steve Crocker to provide text for minutes of September 10 meeting.

    The IDENT MIB is ready to go forward.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IDENT protocol is approved by the IESG,
    send a recommendation to the IAB that the IDENT MIB be accepted as a
    Proposed Standard.

    6. There was an extended discussion on the advisability and
    desirability of moderating the IETF discussion list. Much of the
    discussion focused on the mechanics of moderating the list, and whether
    or not individual should be prevented from sending mail to the
    discussion list. It was generally accepted that whatever is done, it
    must be announced prior to implementation.

    ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into mechanisms to intecept messages
    before they go to the list. General switch that can quickly be turned
    on.

    7. The IESG discussed Sender-Initiated File Transfer (SIFT), a document
    submitted as an Informational RFC. The need for such a facility was
    discussed, and it was decided to initiate discussions with the author.

    ACTION: Hobby -- Send a note to the author of the SIFT protocol.
    Determine what features are missing from FTP that SIFT handles, and
    whether FTP be enhanced to meet the community needs.

    8. Russ Hobby mentioned in passing that he was married over the
    weekend. Congratulations Russ!

    9. The Reynolds/Hobby "Package" of an architeture and four WGs was
    approved. In addition to sending the announcement of the WGs to the
    ietf, both RIPE and RARE should be copied, espeically since the package
    contains a cohesive architecture.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send out the entire Information architecture
    package to the ietf. Copy RIPE and RARE, and include statement which
    highlights existance of architecture.

    10. It was stated that Remote Conferencing (remconf) was NOT to become
    a working group. The members of the BOF have been focusing in writing
    an architectural document, and are expected to submit it as an
    Internet-Draft. It is anticipated that, as a result of the
    architecture, a number of working groups will be formed to work on the
    items identified within the architecture.

    11. There was continued discussion on the subject of improving the
    quality of work performed by the WG/IESG. Briefly discussed was whether
    the Secretariat tracking information should be included in the
    recommendation to the IAB, which lead into a discussion on the quality
    of the WG data maintained, specifically noting the charters and
    milestones and their relation to reality. There was not enough time to
    sufficiently review Phill's message to the POISED WG on Quality
    Control, and this discussion will continue at the next IESG
    teleconference.

    A concern of "not the whole story provided" was raised to the
    suggestion that administrative data be included in the IAB
    Recommendation. Consensus seemed to indicate a need for tracking each
    and every step (chronological audit trail) of an item as it goes
    through the IESG, resulting in a stand-alone historical package at
    completion of effort.

    Phill wants to make statement of positive steps being taken.

    ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into what information is carried and
    what needs to be done to establish a protocol standards track audit
    trail.

    Appendix -- Action Items --------

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send recommendation to the IAB to publish the SNMP
    over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX documents as Proposed
    Standards.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a LAST CALL for BGP default Route to the ietf
    announcement list.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IDENT protocol is approved by the IESG,
    send a recommendation to the IAB that the IDENT MIB be accepted as a
    Proposed Standard.

    ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into mechanisms to intecept messages
    before they go to the list. General switch that can quickly be turned
    on.

    ACTION: Hobby -- Send a note to the author of the SIFT protocol.
    Determine what features are missing from FTP that SIFT handles, and
    whether FTP be enhanced to meet the community needs.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send out the entire Information architecture
    package to the ietf. Copy RIPE and RARE, and include statement which
    highlights existance of architecture.

    ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into what information is carried and
    what needs to be done to establish a protocol standards track audit
    trail.